Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Princeton2
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/1/08
#2re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 3:41pmDamn... does anyone think Shrek will make it until November? That is when I'm seeing it.
#3re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 3:44pmWhen I saw that and even South Pacific and In the Heights, my jaw dropped... I really don't think Shrek will make it past the new year even though I love the show a lot. Those kind of numbers won't make it through the winter.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#5re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 3:52pm
wdw I was just as shocked as you but I would give up on shrek yet.
Octobers going to be a HORRIBLE month for all shows I think but towards thanskgiving and christmas everything should pick up.
If Shrek can last till late november it should be OK. Its not like this has been happening alot. Shreks decline only happend recently but I think producers knew this would happen (kids go back to school, adults work, etc). It would be smart of them to keep it up till the holiday season.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#6re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 3:56pm
Last year at this time "Mary Poppins" suffered a 47% drop rate, but it had already recouped its investment: https://www.broadwayworld.com/grosses.cfm?days=2008-09-07
"Shrek" better recoup its investmant soon or at least come close to recouping. I also hope the producers will keep the show open till the fourth movie comes out:
Updated On: 9/14/09 at 03:56 PM
#7re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 3:58pm
Shrek is certainly in a much more precarious position than Mary Poppins, given that it hasn't recouped yet.
Happy to see that the drop at next to normal was minimal, though.
snl89
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/05
#8re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:08pm
Jeeez, Shrek's gross wasn't even that much more than Next to Normal's, if I'm reading that right! And it's a MUCH bigger/higher cost show I'd think. That's rough
Nice to see that Next to Normal isn't doing tooo badly though :)
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#9re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:11pmDo you think the Shrektember savings aren't working?
#10re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:13pmWell apparently they are since the ticket average was 63.99 so that means people are using it, but it was the first full week for most students last week so I imagined that the weekday shows were much emptier than the weekends.
#11re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:15pm
"If Shrek can last till late november it should be OK. Its not like this has been happening alot. Shreks decline only happend recently but I think producers knew this would happen (kids go back to school, adults work, etc). It would be smart of them to keep it up till the holiday season. "
Shrek has never been a blockbuster. It started off with unimpressive numbers, given the size of the show and the names involved. I would say that this is not the first time its numbers have dipped so low. Luckily it has an ungodly amount of money behind it.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#12re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:16pm
"Shrek has never been a blockbuster. It started off with unimpressive numbers, given the size of the show and the names involved."
It opened in a difficult financial time. The economy is not very good.
Updated On: 9/14/09 at 04:16 PM
#13re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:20pm^ Oh, so that is the card that will be played when it flops? I was hoping they would just admit it sucks.
#14re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:23pm
Well... Billy Elliot opened at roughly the same time and has been rolling in the dough week after week.
Shrek suffered from mixed to negative press, an initially ineffective ad campaign, and I think people were/are just very wary of seeing it on stage. It is, after all, more or less just the movie- which is on DVD for next to nothing. At least The Lion King has the illusion of being avant garde and "cultural".
#15re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 4:55pmlots of shows opened during the economic downturn... Billy Elliot, Rock Of Ages, Next To Normal... all doing great. Economy is not an excuse.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#16re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:05pm
Billy Eliott opened with high advances because it was a BIG success in London. Rock Of Ages and Next To Normal were Off-Broadway shows first and everyone got to see them at first including critics.
Also, Shrek was a new show that only had an out-of-town tryout, and it barely got any bad reviews. Major news sources Variety, USA Today, and the Associated Press liked it. The New York Times said it wasn't bad.
ETA: Off-Boradway shows are rarely affected by the economy.
Updated On: 9/14/09 at 05:05 PM
#17re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:10pm
I'd be more concerned with Shrek than Poppins. Mary Poppins has recouped so anything they make is profit. If their grosses drop, it's not as much of a big deal. Shrek on the other hand has yet to recoup and like others have said, it's never exactly been a box office bonanza.
#18re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:14pm
Shrek got great reviews from almost every major news paper in new york (News,Post,Times including USA today and newsday).
And recived a great ammount of buzz via magazines and radio.
#19re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:25pm
I would say that overall Shrek got mixed reviews, and even the positive ones weren't exactly raves. More like : "It's ok".
And to clarify saveusmike, the Times review certainly was not a great review. At the most generous, it was mixed.
#20re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:26pmWhatyoutalkingaboutWillis.
#21re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:27pmYeah I think I remember Brantly saying that show was "not bad". It certainly wasn't a rave review.
#22re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:32pm
Using the miracle of modern technology...
"Shrek,? for the record, is not bad. [...]But it seems to me that if ?Shrek? had more generally heeded its own advice about substance versus surface, it might have come closer to casting the spell that lets Broadway shows live happily ever after."
It was a tepid reaction at best. Not exactly something you can plaster on a marquee.
#23re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:43pm
"When I saw that and even South Pacific and In the Heights, my jaw dropped... "
I am not too worried about South Pacific, but In the Heights...ouch. Same with Shrek.
#24re: Broadway Grosses - OUCH for Shrek and Mary Poppins!
Posted: 9/14/09 at 5:50pmDid South Pacific recoup yet?
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