Brooklyn-Am i crazy?- Page 3

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:03pm

"only four of them are challenging works and the rest of them just had gimmicks that moved them along."

If you say POTO, I am going to scream. I know there is the Chandelier but I loved the recording a LONG time before I ever saw the show.

If you weren't going to say that, then I apologize.

[timote316]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:04pm

I wasn't going to get involved in this, but...

And I quote:
" OK that's it!!!
Don't you people have something else in life to do instead of bashing brooklyn in every single theard?
Many people think BKLYN is a brilliant, amazing, creative great show (including me and all of the BKLYN fans, and believe it or not, there are many)
And just for the record - no BKLYN fan started this theard, so don't say we can't stop talking about it 24hrs a day (we have the fans forum for that!)"

Tiny, don't you have something else in life to do instead of claiming Brooklyn is the bestest best show in the world (I know what I said lol). And, yes, some people may believe Brooklyn is all that you say, but then the drug trip they are on fizzles out. And just for the record - YOU STARTED THE ARGUEMENT! Please, go back to your fan forum.

Take it easy, Tiny, its all in good fun. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and, pertaining to Brooklyn, most everyone thinks it stinks. We know you like it.

In all seriousness: why do they feel the need to cut ROO from the name? I yet to grasp this...

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:06pm

In all seriousness: why do they feel the need to cut ROO from the name? I yet to grasp this...

To make it look more street? I have no idea.

[Tiny-Toon]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:08pm

I agree with only one line of your post.

"Brooklyn is the best show"

[joeyjoe]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:09pm

unfortunately, it was made sarcastically...

[SallyBrown]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:10pm

okay so I was listening to that song that Eden sings, Dream or Fairy Tale or w/e..and i gotta say..it sounds EXACTLY like the pop fluffy stuff Diana Degarmo sings (no offense to AI fans..i just dont like that music)

aaahhh

so I dont think that CD will be worth buying when i can buy my second copy of TTB because my first copy died

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:10pm

Tiny, just to let you know......they are playing "Heart Behind These Hands" on bww.com radio

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:18pm

I had started to link that Times article Midtown Gym mentioned before. I've been having this conversation for a couple of years with friends over whether the non-musical play is dead on Broadway. The audience for serious theatre seems to have either died off, moved to Florida, or been priced out of the market by escalating ticket costs. It used to be that every season there were several non-musical plays that would have a decent profitable run -- serious dramas, light comedies, star vehicles. Now, straight plays and nonconventional/genre-defying musicals can't ever seem to beak even, which is scary for the future of all theatre, period.

How many NEW nonmusical plays have turned a profit in the last five years? Four? Five? Even when you have stars like John Lithgow or Judd Hirsch or Jimmy Smits or Ellen Burstyn or Frank Langella or (LOL) Farrah Fawcett, you apparently can't run for more than a month or two. Even when it's a critically acclaimed solo show (I Am My Own Wife, Golda's Balcony) with minimal sets and running costs, a play STILL apparently can't break even.

Apparently the Not-for-profit realm is the only way to go for challenging new work on Broadway. Because they have large subscriber bases and sizable financial support from corporate, government and individual sources, MTC and Lincoln Center can at least do limited engagements of unproven new work by (noncommercial) playwrights and composers. Thanks to them, Broadway will see new works from Donald Marguiles (Brooklyn Boy at The Biltmore), Elaine May (After The Night and The Music @ The Biltmore) and Adam Guettel (Light In The Piazza @ The Beaumont) this season. And similarly, Roundabout can mount first class productions of Sondheim works that no commercial producer would touch given the rather bleak prospects of turning a profit (Follies, Assassins, Pacific Overtures). We need MORE big budget not-for-profits who can afford to operate a Broadway space and dedicate it to works that are too financially risky for commercial producers to touch -- the future of the American theatre depends on it.

Otherwise, the handwriting is on the wall that Broadway will basically just be Vegas East in another decade or two -- there will only be an audience for big mindless spectacles, featuring the pop music catalogues of whoever's left at that point (WHAM?; Boys2Men? Lionel Ritchie?).

Updated On: 12/7/04 at 02:18 PM

[timote316]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:24pm

Unfortunately, I have to agree with what has been said previously, America is dumbed down. Most people now just don't have the attention span to sit and watch a straight play (I am sad to say I include myself in that statement, but I am working on it).

[SallyBrown]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:24pm

thats hella depressing

[robbiej]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 2:34pm

Margo,

It's a conversation my friends and I have been having for years as well! Ya know, I don't know why I stay in NYC when all the really challenging work is being done on (God help us) cable or in regional theatre.

Time to decamp to the Left Coast, methinks!

[joeyjoe]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 5:59pm

interesting how Brooklyn is up .2% in attendance, but gross is down $13,351 from last week... more discounts???

[kangaroo]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 6:55pm

I heard the singers during their portion of the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. The performers look amazing, I smell a tony nomination.

[Swiftynifty15]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:00pm

Alot of people thought Brooklyn was amazing when it came out. Why the negativity now?

[pab]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:10pm

"A LOT of people"? I don't remember them who were they?

[Tiny-Toon]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:13pm

Alot of people still do,
It's just that some people around this board making it kinda hard to post anything about brooklyn

[pab]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:18pm

I was not knocking the show (this time) I just don't remember "A LOT" of people saying that it was amazing.

[Matt_G]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:20pm

That's because there were only TWO people here that did say it was amazing. our very own Tiny-Toon and a girl who was a shill for the show and STILL is harassing people here on this board. BKLYN is pure, sh*t. That's all it is. It's a horrible show that's filling seats because they are practically giving tickets away, no matter what Tiny-Shill says.

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:23pm

No, BKLYN!

Only WICKED!

[Tiny-Toon]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:24pm

Well matt, i can understand you, and many others on this board
that bash Brooklyn. You know why? becuase i know some of you
are miserable people that never got to where you wanted in life, and seeing the talented cast of Brooklyn...
and some of you work for other shows.. but that's another story.

Updated On: 12/7/04 at 08:24 PM

[morosco]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:26pm

Relax...it's just another sign of Broadway's armageddon.

[Matt_G]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:30pm

Never got where I wanted in life??? Dude, I'm a little young to have reached the point of "Never got where I wanted to go". Statements like that to people in their twenties don't really mean a lot.

[Tiny-Toon]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:31pm

Ok.. so would you like to take option B?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:31pm

Tiny...dont bash Matt as a person just becuase he didnt like the show. You dont know him. You dont know his dreams. You must admit that your horribly out-numbered on this board. I dont really understand why you keep posting. I mean honestly. Everytime you write somthing you get bashed. Why dont you just go post on an all brooklyn thread. People might listen there...

[Matt_G]

Posted: 12/7/04 at 8:33pm

I do not work for any show, Tiny-Shill.