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Cabaret: How Many Versions?

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#25re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 3:11pm

"To the best of my knowledge:
1967, 1987 and 1997 are all available to be performed."

Is the 1997 the Mendes revival? Because I'm pretty sure that isn't available.

But every production that has been undertaken in my area (well, two), have used the 87 version but tried to incorporate Mendes sensibilities with the Emcee etc..


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

#26re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 3:34pm

Tams Witmark has the rights: Welcome to the Cabaret sings the Emcee of the Kit Kat Club through painted lips, as the people of Berlin 1929 join him. Both versions of this show follow the same story and share most songs. Musical numbers exclusively in the Original 1967 version include Meeskite and Why Should I Wake Up? Numbers only in the Revised 1987 version include I Don't Care Much, Don't Go and The Money Song. Both versions include Willkommen, Perfectly Marvelous, Sitting Pretty, Tomorrow Belongs to Me, Cabaret, Don't Tell Mama, It Couldn't Please Me More and Two Ladies.
Tams Witmark Cabaret

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#27re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 4:02pm

That is the Original production and 1987 production, not the Mendes revival.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

#28re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 4:25pm

Yep- sorry I thought it said that. Two versions, not the most recent.

WOSQ
#29re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 4:48pm

Maybe This Time and I Don't Care Much were written and recorded long before Kander and Ebb were hired to write Cabaret.

Maybe This Time is on Liza's first album released in 1963.

I Don't Care Much is on Barbra's album called People released in 64. It is sort of dropped incidentally into the 1987 production with the Emcee singing it as commentary (as all his songs are) but not in a 'performance' context.

Kander and Ebb's first show together, Flora, was produced in 1965 and was almost an audition for Hal Prince and Cabaret.


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#30re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 4:54pm

I didn't know this info, thanks. But I searched and it appears "I don't care much" is on 'The Second Barba Streisand Album' (1963), not People.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

#31re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:24pm

|Eric, I saw the 1987 CABARET when the post-Broadway tour (with Grey) played Toronto.

The text was pretty close to the 1966. It was, after all, staged by Prince. Some dialogue was added to establish that Cliff was bisexual, and "Meeskite" and "Why Should I Wake Up" were both cut. But the 1987 version was not a radical rethinking of the piece as was the Mendes production.|

Thanks Mark. I've seen this production a few times (obviously not live) so am aware of the changes (though I think Cliff could arguably be pretty much gay in it--though of course he gets Sally pregnant so maybe it's a question of sematics) While I prefer "Why Should I Wake Up" as a song, I really like how "Don't Go" works in context. (I Don't Care Much was also added, and placed in a different place than it is now as is mentioned, a place that worked better IMHO)

My question was if Masteroff's book actually had much new dialogue in the Mendes production--I know the show was not a rethinking whatsoever--besides these changes it was almost a recreation of the original production design, choreography and directing wise. I just hadn't seen Mendes production since a tour in the early '00s and couldn't remember how much different dialogue there was or if his changes were all just in matters EXCEPT dialogue if that makes sense.

As great as I thought his production was, I have to say seeing the Prince production in what is essentially a recreation of his '67 original I feel that sometimes it gets looked down upon by modern Cabaret fans who assume it must be old fashioned. While I think the changes made for '87--about Cliff's sexuality are essential to any modern version of the piece--Prince's actual production, from Field's AMAZING (ok, maybe too amazing) choreography (watching it you get why people were convinced he'd become a star director.choreographer) to of course Aronson's masterful design to the directing, Prince's production is GENIUS. I know it was something of a disappointment in terms of its success when revived, but it definetly IMHO holds up.

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#32re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:36pm

Is it sad that the two regional productions I've seen seemed to have just xeroxed the Mendes libretto from the coffee table book? Both times I've seen the show they used the revival script and songs, probably without permission.

#33re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:43pm

If it's sad or not depends on if you liked the production I suppose re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?

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#34re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:47pm

Nah. Either they explicitly allow the changes or they turn a blind eye to it because I guarantee you that no production since as early as 1995 uses the licensed material to the note and letter.

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#35re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 10:56pm

I absolutely love "Why Should I Wake Up"


Jon
#36re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 11:31pm

I was involved in a production in the 1970's that had Cliff sing "I Don't Care Much" in the scene in the Kit Kat Klub after he argues with Sally and she storms off to her dressing room, before the Nazis beat him up. Then she comes out and sings the title song.

Gothampc
#37re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/13/09 at 11:38pm

Maybe This Time was supposed to go into the original Broadway show if Liza got the role. When Prince decided to go the mediocre singer route, Kander & Ebb pulled the song from the show.


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#38re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/14/09 at 12:05am

I still think that song is wrong for Sally.

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#39re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/14/09 at 12:46am

Sally wasn't going to be Sally. Sally was going to be Liza. That's why Prince didn't cast her.


#40re: Cabaret: How Many Versions?
Posted: 11/14/09 at 1:00am

I adore Why Should I Wake Up too--it's prob my fave non cabaret song in the show but dramatically I understand why they wanted to change it and use Don't Go


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