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#51

re: Candle's Out: New Daphne Rubin-Vega interview

Right. But I'm just confused. Did she say here or anywhere else that she thought the film was bad or something? Or are you saying she didn't see it b/c she heard/thought it was bad?

Pure spectulation, but I would think her reason for not seeing it would have more to do with her frustration with the project, and it would make her upset to watch it.

ETA: Yes, thank you everyone, that was my point, I didn't think she actually gave an opinion of the film.

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Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:03 AM

#53

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WRQ, I don't think she ever said the film was good or bad. The only thing she has stated about the film itself (not the casting choices, obviously) is that she hasn't seen it.

I also agree with everyone who's saying that it's very reasonable that she would be upset to some extent that she wasn't cast, but I would also hope that she would conduct herself with a bit more maturity to the press.

Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:04 AM

#54

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She's quite a character.
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#55

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I don't see any "immaturity" in what Daphne is saying. Perhaps she "gagged" partially because Columbus was never upfront about Daphne's looking "too old" (the woman looks fabulous---certainly not 19, but hell, neither does Rosario) for the part; he just said that it was because she had just had a baby. If he REALLY wanted her as badly as he appeared to at times, he would have held it off what--a month? Two? This film was waiting for years, putting it off for somebody you want THAT badly certainly isn't bending over backwards.

Perhaps she also "gagged" because this was a commerical studio producing for a mainstream audience, and there were highly publicized changes and cuts that arguably could have had Larson rolling in his grave (I mean, did you watch the documentary and see how protective he was of even his weak material? Imagine how he'd feel if some of the most important pieces were removed.), and she was/is a bit upset that people--including the original cast--would let that fly.

I never sense bitterness TOWARDs the castmembers. I mean, I would venture to guess she really doesn't hate them because they took on the film. If I remember correctly, right around the time The film was being released and See What I Wanna See was coming to a close, someone spotted Daphne there to visit Idina Menzel. I don't think she'd be visiting if she were that bitter.

At any rate, I fail to see any immaturity in her statements.

Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:19 AM

#56

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Right SD. But you wrote:

"Still, I'd hope she wasn't basing her opinion on the final product of the movie strictly upon hearing of two cuts. Even people who hated the movie can probably agree that one should see the movie before judging it."

Which is why I got confused. She didn't say it was good/bad, she pretty much gave no opinion on the film, so I didn't know what opinion you were referring to. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything re: Candle's Out: New Daphne Rubin-Vega interview

ETA: She said she gagged when she heard the most of the rest of the OBC was doing it, so I would assume that would be before the highly publicized cuts were made. So I don't think the gag was in reference to those.
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Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:20 AM

#57

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BroadwayGirl, I agree with a lot of the points you made.

Oh, I know someone that saw Daphne at SWIWS in early December, so it was definitely after the movie was released. And I know Anthony is still on good terms with her as well, so maybe *they* understand her feelings/opinion better than we can based on this one article.
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Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:37 AM

#58

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To tell the truth I think she has every right to be bitter about not being in the film. I mean if I were her I'd be pretty sad about not being in the film, playing a character that she's played since the very beginning.

EDIT: What I meant by this is that she has a right to be bitter, but someday she will have to get over it. And this is coming from a person who's favorite Mimi is DR-V.

Updated On: 4/9/06 at 02:38 AM

#61

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Well, she is doing the anniversary concert, so she shouldn't be that bitter about it.
Bitter would be if she declined to be part of that...I would've liked her to be "well, not on film, not on concert, not ever again".- but she obviously keeps some appreciation for the piece, the composer and fellow actors.
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#63

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BroadwayGirl107, I think a lot of it comes down to interpretation. When I first read this article a few days ago, it struck me how absolutely bitter she sounded. Perhaps others reading it may interpret it a different way. It also doesn't help that the meaning behind many of her statements likely lies somewhat in the inflection of her voice, which we obviously have no access to via an article.

Again, I think she sounded overly bitter and immature. It's such a subjective matter. Of course, she has the right to be bitter to some extent, but again, I would hope she could curb it somewhat for the press as it only reflects poorly on her. Fredi, on the other hand, handled the entire situation with unquestionable class.

I never sense bitterness TOWARDs the castmembers.

I didn't, either. A few people suggested that she was angry at the members of the OBC themselves for agreeing to do the film without her, and I disagreed.

ETA: She said she gagged when she heard the most of the rest of the OBC was doing it, so I would assume that would be before the highly publicized cuts were made. So I don't think the gag was in reference to those.

I agree. I interpreted that statement as, "The others weren't deemed too old, but I was, so I gagged," not "I heard that they cut 'Goodbye Love' and I gagged."

Which is why I got confused. She didn't say it was good/bad, she pretty much gave no opinion on the film, so I didn't know what opinion you were referring to. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything

Yes, my response was to Michael Bennett's earlier post.
#64

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You wish she would curb it for the press? Aren't you one of the people who LOVES how honest Adam Pascal is? He just says what he feels...why doesn't Daphne get respect for doing that as well.

All I was saying is jumping to the conclusion that she is being bitter and immature about this whole thing sounds awfully judgmental to me.

And yes, Fredi handled the situation with class, but Chris seemed more upfront about why she wasn't going to be in the film while with Daphne it was almost like "I'm going to pass it off THIS way and maybe she'll be dumb enough to think I'm for real." I can see why that's rather insulting. In fact, that was the first thing I thought when I heard that was he's reason.

And fine, the cuts were made after the cast joined, but perhaps she was apprehensive about a director of a bunch of light-hearted family films and a major production studio working on the film, and the cuts were a confirmation of some of what she feared.

I'm not saying any of this IS what she meant, but I think calling her immature is most definitely misunderstanding.
#65

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Aren't you one of the people who LOVES how honest Adam Pascal is?

When did I ever say that? I don't think I've ever commented on this issue before (and if I have, I don't remember it), other than saying that Adam calling the Rent producers "pricks" in an old interview probably wasn't the wisest move, either. So, no, Adam gets equal treatment from me if he decides to say something I interpret as bitter and immature. Just because I'm a fan of his doesn't mean I automatically support anything he says or does.

How do you know what was going through Columbus's head when he gave the pregnancy reason? That's an awfully cynical way of viewing his decision. Since Daphne, unlike Fredi, didn't come out and blatantly say that she looked too old for the role, perhaps he felt it was less of a blow to state that Daphne was pregnant. If Columbus would have stated that Daphne looked too old, who's to say if she'd be more or less angry?

As I said before, it's a subjective matter. I interpreted her comments as sounding bitter and lacking class. You felt differently. As for my being "judgmental" -- it's relatively common to read an interview with someone and come to a conclusion on the way that he or she is acting and sounding. Again, perhaps you interpreted her comments differently than I did. Circles, here we go.
#66

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Why is it impossible to just chalk this up to different interpretations, realize that we're *all* jumping to conclusions, and leave it without personal attacks for which actor someone prefers, and furthermore, backhanded insults to one performer in favor of one that you might like better?
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#67

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the opening discolors the entire interview. I had skipped it until I started reading these posts. trust me you get a completely different perspective without the beginning blurb.

on the other hand, damn, that's good persuasive writing, they could work for the government!
#68

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Obviously, I'm simply speculating, but I think part of the issue is that Daphne did not decide whether or not she would be a part of the movie, others did. Fredi announced that she was too old (although this may have been to cover her being passed over as well), the rest of the OBC was contacted and given the choice to participate in the movie or not, and Daphne was simply passed over. I know I'd be hurt.
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#69

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didn't daphne go to the premiere?
also, i remembered hearing that rosario won't be pleased until she gets daphne's ok for how she did mimi, if daphne hasn't seen it, i wonder how she feels about that.
#72

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If Anthony and Idina (and maybe others) are truly still her friends, then I think it is a bit immature that she would refuse to see it. I can understand her being hurt by not being cast in the movie, but her friends were, so she should support that. Even without the introduction part, she sounds very spiteful in this interview. And prior to this I absolutely loved this woman.

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