Cast Recordings of Into the Woods and 1776 — Page 2

I have most of the film songs, and yes, they're vastly superior.

Still, the movie, even in the longest version that was released on laserdisc (which has the complete version of "Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve," which I believe is not in the director's cut DVD), is missing some of "Molasses to Rum."

But any CD taken from the DVD would also be missing part of "Piddle, Twiddle," wouldn't it?

And I do prefer the smaller orchestrations on the OBCR.

Updated On: 1/26/09 at 07:52 PM

But I've never seen a cut of the film, including the laser disc, that has a complete version of "Molasses to Rum." It's a relatively small section that was cut, but there's a cut. I'd guess that a complete version wasn't recorded, unless you tell me that the Japanese CD has the complete number as heard in the show.

double post, sorry

Updated On: 1/26/09 at 09:36 PM

There's a whole website about 1776, put together by the son of Sherman Edwards, who wrote the score and conceived the entire project, even writing the first version of the book.

http://1776themusical.us/

OBC for both shows.

thank you "nobodyhome" I'll check it out!

Another vote for the theoretical movie soundtrack CD of 1776 would be the presence of John Cullum, a step up (and literally a half step up) from the OBC's very good Clifford David.

Plus, Ron Holgate is in much better voice in the movie.

Updated On: 1/27/09 at 10:02 AM

Thanks for the link nobobyhome. Never saw that before. The audio section is a good way to do a quick compare of the OBC and Revival. Shame there aren't any Soundtrack clips available.

Oh, and one more vote for the OBC for Momma Look Sharp. The OBC is by far the best.

I'll shut up now.

I thought Edelman was disappointing onstage in 1776. I prefer Clifford David on the OBCR, or Cullum in the movie to them both.

Updated On: 1/28/09 at 01:46 PM

Cullum is unbelievable, amazing, chilling in the movie.
So, despite all the praise for William Daniels (whom I agree is great and hard to duplicate and despite his television roles on St. Elsewhere and Boy Meets World, I still see Adams), he wasn't even nominated for the Tony. The nominees were Joel Grey (George M); Jack Cassidy (Maggie Flynn), Herschel Bernardi (Zorba) and the winner Jerry Orbach (Promises Promises).

1776 was the Best Musical over Promises Promises, Hair and Zorba.

(sarcasm on: Hmm, weren't Promises Promises and Zorba musicalized versions of movies? sarcasm off)

Possible hazy memory alert on my part here, but...

Didn't William Daniels receive a best FEATURED actor Tony nomination and refuse it because he was most definitely the LEAD of 1776?

"Daniels did indeed receive a nomination is the Featured Actor category, which he rightly declined. The end result of which was the change to the 'if you aren't billed above the title you are featured' rule."

You're right in what you wrote, except for that. That was the very rule that the committee cited as the reason they nominated Daniels in supporting actor (as the category was known then). Daniels was billed below the title.

The Tony committee had ignored that rule before then, though they'd probably followed it more often.

I can't prove this, but I suspect that the Tony nominating committee thought they were doing Daniels a favor. I suspect they felt that Daniels very likely would lose the Tony to Orbach if he were in competition with him. (Orbach later handily won the Variety Poll of Drama Critics' Award over Daniels.) I think they expected Daniels would have an easy win in supporting (as indeed he probably would have).

I'm among those who prefer Clifford David to Cullum, though what I really wish is that we had David Cryer on a recording.