Could I also add female characters who are sexually aggressive?

[buffyactsing]

Could I also add female characters who are sexually aggressive?#0

Posted: 3/18/06 at 3:55am

Thanks for your help so far! I was wondering if you could also help me think of sexually aggressive female characters from non-Sondheim shows? Older the better but more recent is fine too.

I have Ado Annie from Oklahoma, Lola from Damn Yankees, Lois Lane from Kiss Me Kate, Rizzo from Grease, Shelia in A Chorus Line, Carmen Jones, Evita, some of the women of Hello Again, the taxi cab character from On the Town.

"This ocean runs more dark and deep than you may think you know...I'll be the fear of the fire at sea." -Marie Christine

Updated On: 3/18/06 at 03:55 AM

[muscle23ftl]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#1

Posted: 3/18/06 at 3:56am

Ruth Sherwood in Wonderful Town.

"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-

[Rathnait62]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#2

Posted: 3/18/06 at 4:03am

Agnes Gooch

Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

[muscle23ftl]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#3

Posted: 3/18/06 at 4:05am

Anne Cathrick in The Woman in White.

"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-

[munkustrap178]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#4

Posted: 3/18/06 at 4:05am

The Beggar Woman, SWEENEY TODD
Tracy Turnblad, HAIRSPRAY
Grizabella, CATS
Jane Eyre, JANE EYRE
Celie, THE COLOR PURPLE
Mimi, RENT
Nadie, BARE
Luisa Contini, NINE (in a way)
Marie, SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE (in a way)
Julie Jordan, CAROUSEL (in a way)
Anna Leonowens (at times, in a way)
Maria von Trapp (at times, in a way)
Caroline, CAROLINE OR CHANGE (in a way)

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

[zoran912]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#5

Posted: 3/18/06 at 5:17am

The Witch, INTO THE WOODS

[CVActor1]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#6

Posted: 3/18/06 at 6:10am

Eponine - Les Miserables
Fantine - Les Miserables
Young Cosette - Les Miserables
Elphaba - Wicked
The Witch - Into The Woods
The Beggar Woman - Sweeney Todd
Celie - The Color Purple
Mimi - RENT
Sarah - Ragtime
Daisy and Violet (Hinton?) - Side Show
Annie - Annie
Beast - Beauty and the Beast
Grizabella - Cats
Eva Perone (in the beginning) - Evita
Chava - Fiddler on the Roof
Kim (in the beginning) - Miss Saigon
Mimi - Miss Saigon
Aldonza - Man of La Mancha
Tuptim - The King & I
Mary Magdelene - Jesus Christ Superstar
Lucy - Jekyll and Hyde
Hedwig - Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Sandy - Grease
Rizzo - Grease
Julie - Showboat
Dot - Sunday In The Park

[Sant]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#7

Posted: 3/18/06 at 7:01am

Norma Desmond - SUNSET BOULEVARD (sort of)
Bertrande - MARTIN GUERRE
Alex, Jane & Sukie - THE WITHCHES OF EASTWICK
Belle - BEAUTY AND THE BEAST (sort of)
Fantine - LES MISERABLES

[Wanna Be A Foster]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#8

Posted: 3/18/06 at 7:15am

"Latina Girl" in BROOKLYN

"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)

[melissa errico fan]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#9

Posted: 3/18/06 at 7:35am

Jenny Diver, Polly Peachum, Lucy Brown-THREEPENNY OPERA
Hesione-THE TRIUMPH OF LOVE
Julie LaVerne-SHOW BOAT
Svetlana-CHESS
Katie-A TREES GROWS IN BROOKLYN
Rebecca and Bella-RAGS
Mother and Sarah (in a way)-RAGTIME

[AlmostFamous]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#10

Posted: 3/18/06 at 10:19am

Aida (in the beginning) - AIDA

[JudasIscariot]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#11

Posted: 3/18/06 at 10:21am

Ms. Pennywise - Urinetown

[beenthere]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#12

Posted: 3/18/06 at 10:25am

Anybodys - West Side Story

[hushpuppy]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#13

Posted: 3/18/06 at 10:33am

The Baroness in THE SOUND OF MUSIC

'Our whole family shouts. It comes from us livin' so close to the railroad tracks'

[Musical_nerd]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#14

Posted: 3/18/06 at 12:15pm

Katisha in Mikado

Mary
Bob Martin Online

[mint0621]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#15

Posted: 3/18/06 at 4:55pm

Mirtrio (Daphne Rubin-Vega's part) in Bernarda Alba

[NYC4Life]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#16

Posted: 3/18/06 at 5:09pm

Charity in Sweet Charity
Effie in Dreamgirls

[EponineThenardier]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#17

Posted: 3/18/06 at 5:54pm

Betrande in Martin Guerre
Esmerelda in Hunchback or Notre Dame de Paris

[BobbyBubby]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#18

Posted: 3/18/06 at 5:56pm

I really wouldn't consider the Baroness in Sound of Music to be an outcast. If anything, Maria is the outcast of that show.

[beenthere]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#19

Posted: 3/18/06 at 6:11pm

kind of a broad research topic, no?

[buffyactsing]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#20

Posted: 3/18/06 at 6:29pm

Well it's more specific than that, but I didn't want to lead too much/wanted to keep the door open for a change of ideas.

My thesis is that Sondheim revolutionized the treatment of the female outsider (most specifically ending with Fosca in Passion), as nearly every other female character outsider before his shows either found her tragic demise/ruination or was "tamed" to fit society's standards.

"This ocean runs more dark and deep than you may think you know...I'll be the fear of the fire at sea." -Marie Christine

Updated On: 3/18/06 at 06:29 PM

[OverTheBoone]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#21

Posted: 3/18/06 at 6:44pm

That sounds like a great idea for a paper!

[Marguerite Chauvelin]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#22

Posted: 3/18/06 at 7:14pm

Well for the "Agressive" ones, I would have to say Queenie in The Wild Party.

If Percy Blakeney were in Les Mis....

Percy: Sink me! If it isn't Javvurt!
Javert: Zsah-vair, it's pronounced Zsah-vair.
Pecry: But it's spelled J-A-V-E-R-T Javvurt.
Javert: Repeat after me Zsah...Zsah....
Percy: Oh! Zsa-Zsa! Like the Gabor sister! Well I personally have always prefered Eva.
Javert: (Looks for gun)

[Isabella2]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#23

Posted: 3/18/06 at 8:06pm

donna Murphy's charater in Hello, Again
Miss Hannigan from Annie
The old woman in Candide


I don't see how ruth sherwood from wonderful town is sexually agressive... neither do i see it with the witch from into the woods.

[Blue J]

re: Female outcasts in musicals#24

Posted: 3/18/06 at 8:11pm

I don't know if she really counts, but maybe Adela in "The House of Bernarda Alba".