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#26

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 12:38pm

I've seen Show Business, and there is no actual proof that these "campaigns" influence Tony voters.

Look at the reviews. The reviews for Avenue Q were far superior to Wicked, and therefore it rightfully won.
#27

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 1:04pm

Just because a show is the best-reviewed doesn't mean it wins. The "quality" of a show can only go so far in a voter's decision. It's mostly politics.

No one ever promised "proof" or hard facts that the Q campaign 'swayed' votes from another show to Q. It's just a given that it had influence. Can you provide proof that it didn't?

I mean, let's face it. If QUALITY was the most influential factor in giving out the Tony, then the history of shows that won would be quite different:

GREY GARDENS over SPRING AWAKENING
THE COLOR PURPLE (or DROWSY) over JERSEY BOYS
THR LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA (or ANY of the other shows) over SPAMALOT
CAROLINE OR CHANGE over AVENUE Q
URINETOWN over THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE
THE WILD PARTY over CONTACT
PARADE over FOSSE
RAGTIME or SIDE SHOW over THE LION KING
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#28

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 1:49pm

we won't even go into detail about some of your opinions about "quality", as that would start a whole new thread.

And no, I can't provide proof. That's the point, neither can you, so your argument is not valid. It's just an opinion of yours based on no facts.

And to say that "It's mostly politics" is rubbish.

Do you even know one Tony voter?
#29

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 2:00pm

"And to say that "It's mostly politics" is rubbish."

It's pointless to continue this discussion if you don't believe Tony votes are politics. Again, it's more about friends voting for friends, shows being marketable, etc.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#30

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 10:36pm

I'm going to weigh in here folks. When hundreds of people who are actively involved in an industry try to choose the best of their trade, it all boils down to one thing: chutzpah. That's right.

Seriously though, no one knows what's going to happen on June 15th, but I know one thing... If those other guys get up at 7, we'll get up at 6. If our audiences want their own pair of roller skates, I'll lace them up and push them down 44th Street.

As my many many friends on the New York Knickerbockers often say, "We're going to give it 110% and play our kind of basketball." That's really all anyone can ask for.

Keep dreaming, keep reaching.

Cubby B
Tony Campaign Manager


Cubby Bernstein Official Website
#32

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 10:47pm

Cubby, you have my support and if you need any assistance - I am on board!
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

Updated On: 5/16/08 at 10:47 PM

#34

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 10:51pm

If you're taking advice from the Knicks, then Xanadu has no shot of winning. You might want to take advice from someone who's won something in the past 20 years.
#36

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 10:56pm

Cubby, your'e a brilliant marketing sock puppet, but, really...just SAY that you're shilling for XANADU, for Christ's sakes!
Of course I have no ill feeling for XANADU, I like the show, ... but, CUBBY, your'e infiltrating this board like an undercover FBI agent.
#37

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 11:01pm

tiny - we all know that Cubby is campaigning for XANADU so I don't see how he is "undercover?" Shilling? I think that's obvious - but at least this shill is witty. re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#41

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 11:24pm

Are you kidding, Barcelona? This is prime time for Cubby...awake, posting and waiting for the Friday night after show buzzerroooo.....
#42

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 11:41pm

Capn, TABOO wasn't nominated for Best Musical.

THE BOY FROM OZ took the fourth slot that year.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad

"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#43

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/16/08 at 11:55pm

Whoops! Thanks, correction made. Was thinking of Score.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#45

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:15am

who else thinks Cubby shoyuld present The tony for best musical this year
Attend the tale of Bovine Boy His party threads we all enjoy But does he have Mad Cow Disease? He doesn't eat beef - but cows skating? - oh please!!! With cocoa!?! And lemonade!?! The heifer-mad poster of Broadway (World)
#46

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/17/08 at 2:41am

who else thinks Barcelona should shut the hell up????

leave Cubby alone and leave XANADU alone. at least they're creative... putting in some effort for their Tony campaign.

what will IN THE HEIGHTS do? play the race card? just keep repeating "we have 13 Tony Nominations" ?

PASSING STRANGE is just much too cool to do a campaign.

and CRY-BABY... well. do they even have the money to create a campaign? does it matter? they aren't winning.


the Tonys are all about politics. it's been like that for years. you're naive if you actually take the voting process (and nominations) seriously.
#47

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/17/08 at 8:57am

Seriously, whoever gave out his name needs to delete it. Don't you think that's a bit dangerous? Nobody else knows it but you....

He's adorable btw
#49

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/17/08 at 11:56am

This thread renews my faith in Broadway.

David Merrick would love it.

You have to give credit to the Producers of Xanadu for chutzpah and, let's face it, in times of an oil crisis, a recession and the fact that an imbecile has dispatched our entire army to Fort Zindernuf, along comes cuddly Cubby to bring a smile to all the denizens of Broadway.

Thanks, guys. You'd have my vote if I had one.
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#50

re: Cubby Bernstein...who is this kid?

Posted: 5/17/08 at 12:56pm

broadwaywriter - not sure it matters. This child will be on Broadway, in november, so everyone will know his name.

he is Young Shrek in the SHREK Musical and gets some "considerable" stage time (from what I've heard)

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