DEH Resellers

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 8:41am

There's a special place in hell for these people. $1,600 per ticket?

[MtTemple4]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 8:59am

Agreed. 

 

I monitor the stubhub prices right before showtime quite a bit and they will come down if you can play the waiting game, but it is still disheartening. 

 

I did buy resale for Ben’s final show and got a “normal” price as I did it immediately upon announcement. While the tickets were in my cart the prices were going up and twenty minutes after I purchased the cheapest seat was $1k. Ugh. 

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 08:59 AM

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:01am

MtTemple4 said: "Agreed.

I monitor the stubhub prices right before showtime quite a bit and they will come down if you can play the waiting game, but it is still disheartening.

I did buy resale sale for Ben’s final show and got a “normal” price as I did it immediately upon announcement. While the tickets were in my cart the prices were going up and twenty minutes after I purchased the cheapest seat was $1k. Ugh."

This is for our anniversary trip (Come From Away, Dolly, and, hopefully, DEH)...how long should I wait? I'm hoping to go Friday. 

 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:18am

And yet, there are people that will pay those prices...maybe not for every ticket.  THAT'S the real problem. 

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:23am

dramamama611 said: "And yet, there are people that will pay those prices...maybe not for every ticket. THAT'S the real problem."

I'm willing to pay around $350 per ticket for DEH. I think that's a reasonable price. Willing to pay a little more for closer to stage. 

[MtTemple4]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:24am

Definitely keep checking Telecharge like you are, though now that Ben’s departure date is announced I do find that those last minute tickets do not pop up as faithfully as they used to, especially in pairs (but it can happen, so keep checking. This is how I’ve gone almost every time.).

 

For Stub Hub the issue is really that you cannot guarantee that you’ll be successful waiting for the prices to come down, since it’s possible that all the tickets will sell before they come down enough for whatever your budget is. With that said, I would say it is most likely that you could get a pair (a pair is actually easier than one to get) in the $350 range inclusive of fees if you are willing to wait until one hour to a half hour before the show starts. Go to the Stub Hub last minute service center (look at the tickets listed for your performance now and the ones that are not instant download will show you that address) and wait outside and keep refreshing the tickets. The prices will go down and when they come in your range, grab them, pay on the app, and head inside to collect. If you get them fifteen-twenty minutes before show time you will still make it walking briskly up to the Music Box. 

 

Occasionally I will see a lone pair that doesn’t go down in price, but that is the exception more than the rule. For non-Ben performances the prices obviously dive even lower (80-175+fees).

 

Good luck! 

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 09:24 AM

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:27am

MtTemple4 said: "Definitely keep checking Telecharge like you are, though now that Ben’s departure date is announced I do find that those last minute tickets do not pop up as faithfully as they used to, especially in pairs (but it can happen, so keep checking. This is how I’ve gone almost every time.).



For Stub Hub the issue is really that you cannot guarantee that you’ll be successful waiting for the prices to come down, since it’s possible that all the tickets will sell before they come down enough for whatever your budget is. With that said, I would say it is most likely that you could get a pair (a pair is actually easier than one to get) in the $350 range inclusive of fees if you are willing to wait until one hour to a half hour before the show starts. Go to the Stub Hub last minute service center (look at the tickets listed for your performance now and the ones that are not instant download will show you that address) and wait outside and keep refreshing the tickets. The prices will go down and when they come in your range, grab them, pay on the app,and head inside to collect. If you get them fifteen-twenty minutes before show time you will still make it walking briskly up to the Music Box.



Occasionally Iwill see a lone pair that doesn’t go down in price, but that is the exception more than the rule. For non-Ben performances the prices obviously dive even lower (80-175+fees).



Good luck!"

What address are you referring to? Also, will I need to print the tickets?

[MtTemple4]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:42am

Ah. It’s because the date is far enough out that they still say UPS. If you look at tickets for tonight, for instance, the ones that don’t say instant download will have the address. It’s 1412 Broadway, I believe. 

 

The ones that say instant download will need to be printed but StubHub will print them for you (alternatively, there is a Marriott Marquis business center where you can print for a few bucks on 46th street, so even closer to the theatre). But any ticket that is not instant download will be a physical ticket and you’ll just walk into the SH center after purchasing on your phone and they’ll hand you the tickets in an envelope. Takes two minutes tops.

 

Looking at the number of pairs for Friday, you will be absolutely fine. I see the $399 plus fees range now so there will undoubtedly be tickets that come down to your range an hour before showtime if not before. Check early in the day too, because some will lower then and then you can grab a sure thing. 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:43am

theatretenor2 said: "dramamama611 said: "And yet, there are people that will pay those prices...maybe not for every ticket. THAT'S the real problem."

I'm willing to pay around $350per ticket for DEH. I think that's a reasonable price. Willing to pay a little more for closer to stage."

 

But isn't that "reasonable" price going to be different for everyone?  I would never spend 350 on a single ticket.  For anything.  So, for really wealthy folks, with spoiled children, they might not feel 1600 is beyond reason.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:45am

I think anyone that makes money from re-selling tickets is horrible.   Shouldn't be allowed.  All that person did was keep others from paying face value by buying them and then jack up the price.   

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 9:49am

dramamama611 said: "theatretenor2 said: "dramamama611 said: "And yet, there are people that will pay those prices...maybe not for every ticket. THAT'S the real problem."

I'm willing to pay around $350per ticket for DEH. I think that's a reasonable price. Willing to pay a little more for closer to stage."


But isn't that "reasonable" price going to be different for everyone? I would never spend 350 on a single ticket. For anything. So, for really wealthy folks, with spoiled children, they might not feel 1600 is beyond reason."

Absolutely. It will be based on the person. My partner would probably kill me if I paid $350 per ticket, but that's what I'm willing to do to pull off this anniversary weekend. Ideal price is obviously $250 or under, but I'm being a realist.

[DRSisLove]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 10:03am

Unfortunately, you have to remember that the face value tickets to DEH are quite high (regular around 179, mid-premium at 250-300 and premium higher than that). In order for someone to even break even, they have to be 25% higher. Not saying this is right or wrong. I had 2 mid-premium priced tickets to sell because my parents changed their plans and in order for me to even break even I had to go about $50 higher than face value on stubhub.

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 10:06am

DRSisLove said: "Unfortunately, you have to remember that the face value tickets to DEH are quite high (regular around 179, mid-premium at 250-300 and premium higher than that). In order for someone to even break even, they have to be 25% higher. Not saying this is right or wrong. I had 2 mid-premium priced tickets to sell because my parents changed their plans and in order for me to even break even I had to go about $50 higher than face value on stubhub."

Believe me, I get that. I'm referring to the people selling tickets from $800-$1,600 per ticket. That's a 200%-400% markup per ticket. There's a place in hell for these people.

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 10:06 AM

[dramamama611]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 11:22am

DRSisLove said: "Unfortunately, you have to remember that the face value tickets to DEH are quite high (regular around 179, mid-premium at 250-300 and premium higher than that). In order for someone to even break even, they have to be 25% higher. Not saying this is right or wrong. I had 2 mid-premium priced tickets to sell because my parents changed their plans and in order for me to even break even I had to go about $50 higher than face value on stubhub."

 

 

Certainly....but that's not what we're talking about here: these are people that are making a profit....and quite possibly a living at re-selling.  Not just trying to break even.

 

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 11:29am

dramamama611 said: "DRSisLove said: "Unfortunately, you have to remember that the face value tickets to DEH are quite high (regular around 179, mid-premium at 250-300 and premium higher than that). In order for someone to even break even, they have to be 25% higher. Not saying this is right or wrong. I had 2 mid-premium priced tickets to sell because my parents changed their plans and in order for me to even break even I had to go about $50 higher than face value on stubhub."

Exactly, they are making a profit (more than likely a nice living) hammering people over the head.

Update: I got two orchestra tickets  for Hello, Dolly on Telecharge just now at reg prices. Thank God for BroadwayWorld tips, and especially for Ed. Now, to find DEH tickets for Sat night or Sunday.


Certainly....but that's not what we're talking about here: these are people that are making a profit....and quite possibly a living at re-selling. Not just trying to break even.

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[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 11:40am

Pairs are good if you're trying to catch a last minute decently-priced seat, I've noticed a lot the lowest price ticket will show as being like from $185-300 (big range but it really does vary) an hour before showtime and then when I go in to see the tickets they don't show up for a single, so at least you will have that going for you. I am pretty sure you should be able to get a pair in your price range. As well keep an eye on telecharge! It's unlikely you'll get a pair together, though. Good slick, though! I hope you can find some :)

And on the general topic of resales: it's honestly messed up and I feel like there should be more that people can do about preventing it. More verification methods seems sort of eh since a lot of resellers are just regular people, so just cutting out bots really hasn't cut it has it? Why can't they have people watching these obviously for-profit resales and shut them down at the source? Also gross how much sites like Stubhub knowingly profit from it, my $220 DEH ticket (marked up from $109 UHG) came out to almost $300. I know there's never going to be a perfect solution, but like someone said in a Hamilton thread recently: 1/3rd of the theater was being scalped, and there's plenty of DEH performances with hundreds of tickets not in the hands of fans but instead resellers  There has to be something that can be done to bring that number down (don't tell me about Ticketmaster's essential lottery for regular tickets lol).

 

eta: keep an eye on StubHub all day Friday! I've noticed they sometimes go low in the middle of the day as well, and then you won't even have to be in a rush to pick up the tickets or print them out!

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 11:40 AM

[theatretenor2]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 11:55am

Thanks for the tip!

Also, Ticketmaster is suing one of the ticket resellers for something like $12 million for gouging on Hamilton tickets.

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 12:00pm

theatretenor2 said: "Thanks for the tip!

Also, Ticketmaster is suing one of the ticket resellers for something like $12 million for gouging on Hamilton tickets."

Honestly, glad to hear Ticketmaster is doing that!

[BuddyStarr]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 4:28pm

That's probably Ticketmaster (I believe it's them) has their own "resellers site" where sellers can markup the ticket prices and resell them.  They're not doing it for their customers, they're doing it to make a profit too.

[haterobics]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 4:32pm

theatretenor2 said: "There's a special place in hell for these people. $1,600 per ticket?"

If you see them listed for $1,600, that means they aren't selling at that price, though.

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 4:38pm

There is a special place in hell for people who buy tickets, and sell them for a price that some will pay for, making money for themselves?  It's completely legal and no one is forcing anyone to do anything.  Don't like the price?  Don't buy the tickets.  

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 4:43pm

Scalpers are terrible people.  Such a slimy, disgusting "career."  Also, yeah there's a special place in hell for them.

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 6:10pm

Margo319 said: "There is a special place in hell for people who buy tickets, and sell them for a price that some will pay for, making money for themselves? It's completely legaland no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Don't like the price? Don't buy the tickets."

Are you serious? What kind of place of privilege is this coming from? Plenty if people can't afford scalped ticket prices, where they might be able to afford regular priced tickets. Do those people just not deserve a chance to go to the theater just because someone else is willing to pay more? 

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 6:18pm

"Do those people just not deserve a chance to go to the theater just because someone else is willing to pay more?"

Are you serious?  Theater is not a RIGHT, it's a PRIVILEGE.  The people who can afford to go to the theater, go.  If they want to pay thousands of dollars for a ticket, that is their right.  What the hell is wrong with you?  It's a BUSINESS.  You cannot possibly be that naive unless you are 12.

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 06:18 PM

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 6:28pm

Margo319 said: ""Do those people just not deserve a chance to go to the theater just because someone else is willing to pay more?"

Are you serious? Theater is not a RIGHT, it's a PRIVILEGE. The people who can afford to go to the theater, go. If they want to pay thousands of dollars for a ticket, that is their right. What the hell is wrong with you? It's a BUSINESS. You cannot possibly be that naive unless you are 12."

I am saying scalping shouldn't be a business at all, it's shady and detrimental to the theatre community as it blocks out others. If a show wants to price its tickets at $1.6k sure go ahead, whoever is willing and able to pay can pay that. But Dear Evan Hansen doesn't price its tickets at $1.6k, it prices them at $109-I can't remember lol, the point is; random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to raise the price and people are willing to pay, more power to them, but the profit should be going to them not some random person who did nothing for the show.

Honestly, are you a troll? I feel like I only ever see you post when you're giving some wild takes like this.

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 06:28 PM