DEH Resellers- Page 2

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 6:28pm

Margo319 said: ""Do those people just not deserve a chance to go to the theater just because someone else is willing to pay more?"

Are you serious? Theater is not a RIGHT, it's a PRIVILEGE. The people who can afford to go to the theater, go. If they want to pay thousands of dollars for a ticket, that is their right. What the hell is wrong with you? It's a BUSINESS. You cannot possibly be that naive unless you are 12."

I am saying scalping shouldn't be a business at all, it's shady and detrimental to the theatre community as it blocks out others. If a show wants to price its tickets at $1.6k sure go ahead, whoever is willing and able to pay can pay that. But Dear Evan Hansen doesn't price its tickets at $1.6k, it prices them at $109-I can't remember lol, the point is; random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to raise the price and people are willing to pay, more power to them, but the profit should be going to them not some random person who did nothing for the show.

Honestly, are you a troll? I feel like I only ever see you post when you're giving some wild takes like this.

Updated On: 10/3/17 at 06:28 PM

[Rainah]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 7:26pm

I'm against bots and in favour of ticket limits for individuals. But if someone wants to buy an extra ticket and flip it, that seems fairly harmless to me

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 7:29pm

Rainah said: "I'm against bots and in favour of ticket limits for individuals. But if someone wants to buy an extra ticket and flip it, that seems fairly harmless to me"

People making any profit off a show that they had no hand in just seems wrong to me, especially for Dear Evan Hansen where the ticket would've sold anyway. 

[Olivia11]

Posted: 10/3/17 at 7:38pm

But isn't that "reasonable" price going to be different for everyone? I would never spend 350 on a single ticket. For anything. So, for really wealthy folks, with spoiled children, they might not feel 1600 is beyond reason."

Why do you assume someone willing to pay a high price has spoiled children?  This is such a typical response for this board. Someone is willing to pay a much higher price than you are, therefore they must be bad in some way?  

 

[haterobics]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 2:11am

michaelhale said: "random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109."

Random people don't decide the price. Buyers do. If I buy a $149 War Paint ticket and say it now costs $500, buyers will tell me I'm crazy.

DEH has been a hard last-minute ticket to get since it opened. But, it was not difficult at all to get DEH tickets for Ben's last week, you just needed to do it a lot earlier this year. It's not like Hamilton where as soon as a block is released, it sold out. So, anyone who wanted to pay regular price had a chance to do so. They didn't.

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 4:33pm

haterobics said: "michaelhale said: "random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109."

Random people don't decide the price. Buyers do. If I buy a $149 War Paint ticket and say it now costs $500, buyers will tell me I'm crazy.

DEH has been a hard last-minute ticket to get since it opened. But, it was not difficult at all to get DEH tickets for Ben's last week, you just needed to do it a lot earlier this year. It's not like Hamilton where as soon as a block is released, it sold out. So, anyone who wanted to pay regular price had a chance to do so. They didn't."

Those buyers are essentially random people as well. I am sorry if I misphraphed myself: I have no issue with the price, nor am I concerned with tickets for certain times being available/not available: my issue is scalpers profiting off the hard work of the cast and crew. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to start their tickets at $220 or $350 or $400 because people are willing to pay that: more power to them! It is worth that cost, I think that would be unfortunate since it blocks out people from being able to attend the theater, yes, but as a production they can do whatever they want and if people are willing to pay it then O.K! But I think it's wrong for people to have to pay $350 and have $240 of that go in the hands of someone who did nothing for the show. That's all I am saying about scalpers. Everyone should have a fair chance to regular price tickets, whether those start at $109 or $500 should be up to the show not a random unaffiliated seller looking to profit off of someone else's work or just the highest bidder. If the show wants to cater to the highest bidder only then so be it; that's essentially what premium tickets are and I have no problem with those.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 4:37pm

Olivia11 said: "
But isn't that "reasonable" price going to be different for everyone? I would never spend 350 on a single ticket. For anything. So, for really wealthy folks, with spoiled children, they might not feel 1600 is beyond reason."

Why do you assume someone willing to pay a high price has spoiled children? This is such a typical response for this board. Someone is willing to pay a much higher price than you are, therefore they must be bad in some way?

"

Oh, please....not what I meant at all.

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 5:20pm

"I am saying scalping shouldn't be a business at all, it's shady and detrimental to the theatre community as it blocks out others. If a show wants to price its tickets at $1.6k sure go ahead, whoever is willing and able to pay can pay that. But Dear Evan Hansen doesn't price its tickets at $1.6k, it prices them at $109-I can't remember lol, the point is; random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to raise the price and people are willing to pay, more power to them, but the profit should be going to them not some random person who did nothing for the show."

It's a good thing you don't get to make the laws then.  People can do whatever they want with their own tickets.  I sold my Hamilton tickets for 3 grand because a very wealthy doctor wanted to treat his wife to great seats to the hottest show at the time (in 2015). I agreed. It was awesome for us both. No one was hurt in the process and no one is hurt in any other similar exchange.  It's none of your business what other people do with their OWN money and their OWN tickets.  

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 5:33pm

"Why do you assume someone willing to pay a high price has spoiled children?  This is such a typical response for this board. Someone is willing to pay a much higher price than you are, therefore they must be bad in some way? "

Thank you.  Holy God.

[michaelhale]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 6:48pm

Margo319 said: ""I am saying scalping shouldn't be a business at all, it's shady and detrimental to the theatre community as it blocks out others. If a show wants to price its tickets at $1.6k sure go ahead, whoever is willing and able to pay can pay that. But Dear Evan Hansen doesn't price its tickets at $1.6k, it prices them at $109-I can't remember lol, the point is; random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to raise the price and people are willing to pay, more power to them, but the profit should be going to them not some random person who did nothing for the show."

It's a good thing you don't get to make the laws then. People can do whatever they want with their own tickets. I sold my Hamilton tickets for 3 grand because a very wealthy doctor wanted to treat his wife to great seats to the hottest show at thetime (in 2015).I agreed.It was awesome for us both.No one was hurt in the process and no one is hurt in any other similar exchange. It's none of your business what other people do with their OWN money and their OWN tickets."

We just have different values I guess, I believe theater should be accessible to as many as possible and the profit should lay in the hands of those involved with the shows. If you disagree, you disagree. Nothing I can do to change that; especially if you've profited in this way. Have a nice night!

[chuckydisc]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 7:47pm

michaelhale said: "Margo319 said: ""I am saying scalping shouldn't be a business at all, it's shady and detrimental to the theatre community as it blocks out others. If a show wants to price its tickets at $1.6k sure go ahead, whoever is willing and able to pay can pay that. But Dear Evan Hansen doesn't price its tickets at $1.6k, it prices them at $109-I can't remember lol, the point is; random people shouldn't be deciding the price point here, people who can afford $109 and not $220 shouldn't be forced to be unable to see a show in favor of those who can when the price for the show is $109. If Dear Evan Hansen wants to raise the price and people are willing to pay, more power to them, but the profit should be going to them not some random person who did nothing for the show."

It's a good thing you don't get to make the laws then. People can do whatever they want with their own tickets. I sold my Hamilton tickets for 3 grand because a very wealthy doctor wanted to treat his wife to great seats to the hottest show at thetime (in 2015).I agreed.It was awesome for us both.No one was hurt in the process and no one is hurt in any other similar exchange. It's none of your business what other people do with their OWN money and their OWN tickets."

We just have different values I guess, I believe theater should be accessible to as many as possible and the profit should lay in the hands of those involved withthe shows. If you disagree, you disagree. Nothing I can do to change that; especially if you've profited in this way. Have a nice night!"

If someone is wealth-challenged they have had ample time to see DEH Off-Broadway and On-Broadway SRO or even On-Broadway in seats that have been sold for less than $100.  Simply because people have waited until the last 5? 6? weeks of Ben's run why should anyone feel sorry that they have no current access?

Moreover, and I believe this part has been said before and alot more eloquently than I could ever say it, there are countless productions in NYC when you total Broadway, Off-Broadway and Off-Off-Broadway so if you miss one show for whatever good/bad/whathaveyou reasons be thankful that you can simply choose another to attend.

Capitalism has its faults sure but there are MUCH BIGGER concerns with the system as a whole than the secondary ticket market at DEH.

 

 

[haterobics]

Posted: 10/4/17 at 9:29pm

michaelhale said: "Everyone should have a fair chance to regular price tickets, whether those start at $109 or$500 should be up to the show not a random unaffiliated seller looking to profit off of someone else's work or just the highest bidder.."

But everyone did have a chance at regularly priced tickets. I remember back when we were debating whether Ben would leave on November 12 or November 19, you could still buy regular priced tickets for that whole week, including both the 12th and the 19th. But after the buzz kept building, and the Tony wins, most of the regular priced tickets got swept up.

So, there is no issue getting DEH tickets. It's nothing like Hamilton, where the whole block immediately sells out as soon as it goes onsale. If you want a regularly priced ticket to see Taylor Trensch as Evan next year, you can get them fairly easily.

If you don't buy those now, I don't see why you will get to complain that no regularly priced tickets are available next year, though.

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 12:09pm

Exactly.  

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 12:12pm

If you sell tickets for above face value you're a bad person.  Sorry.

[Margo319]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 12:17pm

[chuckydisc]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 10:10pm

GeorgeandDot said: "If you sell tickets for above face value you're a bad person. Sorry."

Why?

 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 11:01pm

GeorgeandDot said: "If you sell tickets for above face value you're a bad person. Sorry."

 

You know "face value" is an arbitrary concept set by producers, right? 

Updated On: 10/5/17 at 11:01 PM

[haterobics]

Posted: 10/5/17 at 11:07pm

GeorgeandDot said: "If you sell tickets for above face value you're a bad person. Sorry."

Yes, but if you try and sell your tickets online for face value, another scalper will often buy them and relist them at market value.

[Yankees02]

Posted: 10/6/17 at 4:38am

people make profit everywhere, broadway is no diff from any other ticketed event. A ticket to the world series could be a face value of $400, just because someone could flip it for another few zeroes on top of that shouldn't make that person evil.

My brother in law bought out the entire inventory of some limited edition toys that my nieces wanted and was selling them on ebay. Do I think he should now be prosecuted and tortured for it because he wasnt in the factories making the toys themselves or the one with the idea??