Posted: 12/16/15 at 12:21pm
Posted: 12/16/15 at 12:41pm
This thread made me laugh so I had, I figured I'd jump in with something off topic.
We are going to see Fiddler the day after Christmas with dinner beforehand at The Four Seasons (restaurant NOT the hotel).
Unlike Per Se, which I did not enjoy because I found it to be slow, overwrought, and pretentious, I love the Four Seasons for a high-end special occasion place. This is the restaurant with the famous "Pool Room" and Picasso curtain melodrama.
Unfortunately, the Four Seasons is losing its lease and is out in July I believe (nasty landlord). For anyone who LOVES duck, Four Seasons has an amazing roast duck, super crispy skin, carved tableside! Ask for Giuseppe as your captain and you'll be treated well. You won't feel like a poor kid looking in on rich people (like I did at Per Se).
Picasso melodrama:
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/society/2014/10/picasso-curtain-four-seasons-restaurant
Updated On: 12/16/15 at 12:41 PM
Posted: 12/16/15 at 2:57pm
Posted: 12/16/15 at 4:49pm
I am impressed with how people can keep tabs on message board participants. Not being sarcastic. Seems like it may come in handy.
Posted: 12/16/15 at 6:05pm
All you need to know:
If they post a gif, probably an attention seeker
If they post an old picture, they know alot
If they advertise, they want to exploit the boards and are mean
If they are called phillypinto, Hamilton22 or Liza's Headband they are a troll
If they post with none of the above, they are here to converse about theatre
if they are before 2010 in terms of join date, respect them a bit more (cautiously)
Posted: 12/16/15 at 6:11pm
JP, I highly recommend the Pool Room!
I forgot to mention, The Four Seasons has an excellent three-course pre-theater menu deal. Ask for the menu. I've enjoyed dining from it several times.
Also if you want a little something extra that's not on that menu, just mention it to Giuseppe.
At the end of the meal, they give you a very special fun extra treat. The likes of which I have not seen at any other fine dining establishment.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 2:32pm
I wonder if the OP was onto something because this came out today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/dining/pete-wells-per-se-review.html?partner=IFTTT
I'm just kidding. I saw the place was trending on Twitter and I was curious as to why. I have never eaten there, so I cannot comment on it being good or bad. I just remembered this thread.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 5:16pm
Speaking of duck -
The duck carnitas at Cosme (21st Street) are OUT OF THIS WORLD.
http://nymag.com/bestofny/food/2015/duck-cosme/
Posted: 1/12/16 at 6:46pm
Ouch. A great review to read though. Curious to see what will follow.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 6:54pm
Ryan Sutton from Curbed called this months ago. I could see them losing a Michelin star.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 7:31pm
For high end dinners in Midtown, I like Betony, Quality Meats, The Modern, Esca, Gabriel kreuther, Cosme, and Sushi Yasuda...To me, all of these are better than Per Se
Per Se was also just given a major denotion by the New York Times critic http://www.grubstreet.com/2016/01/new-york-times-two-star-per-se-review.html?mid=facebook_nymag
Posted: 1/12/16 at 8:09pm
Avoid the Four Seasons Hotel like the plague.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 8:45pm
Just to clarify, my recommendation is for The Four Seasons restaurant, which is not affiliated with nor is it in the Four Seasons Hotel. Two different entities.
Our pre-theater dinner at The Four Seasons was spectacular. If someone can walk me through with how to post photos on here, I'll gladly do so.
Posted: 1/12/16 at 11:12pm
For anyone who has been to Per Se, are there any gunshots?
Posted: 1/13/16 at 8:13am
Funny that talk turned to the Four Seasons (restaurant, not hotel). When I heard about it's upcoming closing, we did our anniversary dinner there as we had never been there. Food was OK, not wonderful, service was "disinterested", and when we asked for the pre-theatre menus we got rolled eyes as if to say "oh, cheapskates, huh?) -- yes the look was VERY clear. When people have a 6 PM reservation, wouldn't you think the pre-theatre menu would be presented along with the regular one?
But the room while perhaps truly elegant in the 60's just seems lost in a time warp, and those beaded curtains -- please, how horribly outdated. Reminded me of 1960's hotel ballrooms for convention dinners. Yes, the pool was a nice touch, but that's it -- even the fake trees looked absolutely worn and dirty. The whole evening just seemed so assembly line and rushed and not at all like we had imagined for years. By contrast, our dinner the following night was at Gramercy Tavern and I can't think of a single thing that wasn't absolute perfection.
Posted: 1/13/16 at 1:08pm
In stark contrast Patash, Giuseppe our captain gave us the pre-theater and regular menus without us asking. We were seated next to the pool without asking as well. When my daughter looked lovingly at my husband's Rum Raisin Souffle, our server quietly brought her one, on the house. The duck was excellent, carved tableside. So no complaints here.
However, it was noticeable that the staff is uneasy about their future. A lot of guests were asking about it. It's gotta be a downer for them.
Posted: 1/13/16 at 4:47pm
Pete Wells called their broth "bong water"....go get em Pete.
