"Don't Stop Believin": Glee Vs. Rock of Ages- Page 4

[Eris0303]

Posted: 5/29/09 at 11:08am

I'm going to have to go with Glee as well. As many other's have said I find the arrangement used on Glee to be head and shoulders above the RoA arrangement.

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/29/09 at 11:11am

massofmen, I wish it were as easy as babysitting.

I'll take dregs of the earth before "intelligently challenged" any day.

Let's hear it for dregs of the earth!!!!!!!

[BlueforBroadway]

Posted: 5/29/09 at 11:33am

Oh Journey's version is the best hands down.

In the context of ROA, DSB makes sense. Not so much to someone who doesn't know the plot.

I was talking with a co-worker who watched the Today Show ROA version and she thought everyone was portraying old rockers. For example, she thought Lauren Molina was Janis Joplin. She asked me to explain it and when I did, she still had a blank stare on her face. I think ROA doing DSB on the Today Show was out of context and too random. Seeing it with the show it fits perfectly. Don't Stop Believing in your dreams.

Maybe it's because I thought the show Glee was corny that their version didn't rock my world. It was too High School Musical for me.

[Barney Stinson]

Posted: 5/29/09 at 11:50am

- Out of context, the DSB is probably confusing. In the show, of course, it works. In fact, in the show, at the opening, I found "Paradise" confusing. You have the people in the bar singing, but also these weird guys in suits, this chick in hippy garb, etc. We hadn't met those characters yet, so they just looked weird. I think they should have either left Franz, his dad, and Regina, etc out of the number, or had them in different outfits so they weren't their characters. Just seemed strange the first time I saw it.

[defyingravity07]

Posted: 5/29/09 at 3:17pm

when you say "everyone" you mean most of the people on this limited chat board of about 5,000 or less people right? you don't mean the 8000 people weekly that go to see ROA. right?


Or the 45,000 people who have already seen the show since its broadway preview date, or the tony nominators who saw its viability and voted for it over 9-5 right?...or counting the 5000 people who saw it off bway for the 8 weeks right?
you are only talking about the small demographic of theater people on this site that have nothing to do with whether a show succeeds or fails right?

What about the 5.6 MILLION people who tuned into Glee? How about the fact that Glee's "DSB" is STILL #8 on iTunes top songs after a week, HIGHER than even Journey's version?
Updated On: 5/29/09 at 03:17 PM

[massofmen]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 12:50am

defying, you defy my ability to think you actually have a coherent thought that is constant with the topic.
The other poster said "everyone" which means he/she is talking about this chat board and people that respond to this post. We are not talking about the 5.8 million people who watched the show because probably 98% of them do not post on this board.

If you would like he 5.8 million people to watch the TV version, then the ROA version and then decide then that would make sense.
otherwise when the other poster was speaking of "everyone' he she was concerning themselves with the people who actually respond to this post.

Does that makes sense? Gosh I hope so. Cause I am getting tired of having these discussions with people who try to converse Ad-hominem.

[jennafan]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 2:59am

I can tell you the worst version of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wceKiDBjFM

[provocation]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 4:04am

With regard to RoA being taped relatively early--true, it is difficult to sing early. But a smart singer knows to be up early, talking and warming up hours before they need to use their voice. Sure, it sucks that RoA needed to be up around 5am or 6am. That's not the point though.. If ANYTHING is going to be broadcasted on television, it needs to be up-to-snuff. Glee and RoAs versions of the same song are quite comparable.

Please.

[SINGASIMPLESONG]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 8:33am

Oh I get it! This is like "Which Sandy?...Olivia-Newton-John?...Or that girl that won that Reality TV Show and got to star on Broadway with former American Idol Contestants in the ROCK OF AGES THEATER?"

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 10:05am

"With regard to RoA being taped relatively early--true, it is difficult to sing early. But a smart singer knows to be up early, talking and warming up hours before they need to use their voice. Sure, it sucks that RoA needed to be up around 5am or 6am. That's not the point though.. If ANYTHING is going to be broadcasted on television, it needs to be up-to-snuff. Glee and RoAs versions of the same song are quite comparable.

Please."

Please is right. It doesn't matter how well prepared you are-if the sound system is NOT indoors with perfect accoustics, and worked on until it's ready to produce the best possible sound. Oh-and did you see ROA in its theater? I did-there's no comparison between that and on a stage outside at Rockefeller Center.

there is no comparison.

and btw, provocation-the word is "broadcast" and not "broadcasted."

[massofmen]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 10:07am

there is a few clips of the ROA cast album.
now you can hear DSB on in a studio.
I actually prefer the Glee arrangement better.



link Updated On: 5/30/09 at 10:07 AM

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 10:37am

I'm fine with that. At least you're judging both on a fair playing field.

I expect most people on this board to prefer the Glee version-it's much more like you would hear on a musical theater stage-more Disney-fied. The ROA version is more like hard rock. I'm more a rock 'n roll fan than musical theater.

[massofmen]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:17am

Jane2,
as I usually agree with you concerning all things ROA on this I must disagree. I think whether it be considered in the "hard rock" genre or the "musical theater genre" the actual arrangement done by the musical team of GLEE is more complex and interesting than the arrangement done by the ROA team in my opinion.

Again, I think the song is one of the best songs ever written. Yes, including handel's messiah.

But the arrangement for GLEE is so much more intricate i think. I think if the acapella was switched with instruments maybe you would feel differently. But then again maybe not. :)

listen to all those different chord ascensions and descensions. They are really smart and i think more interesting. Again just my opinion.

[defyingravity07]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:27am

Jane if you think that RoA's DSB is "hard rock" then you need to get your ears cleaned. That is POP-ROCK.

[taylorPHENOMENON2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:38am

DSB is one of my least favorite songs ever.

BUT, I haven't stopped listening to the Glee version since I bought the tracks.

I watched the clip of the cast singing it on the Today Show. Don;t care for Constantine in general, but that's definitely a track i'll be skipping over once the album comes out.

[defyingravity07]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:43am

I love how most of the comments on RoA's video are negative.

[snarkywannabedreamer]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:48am

screw both of 'em! The "Family Guy" version of DSB is the hands down winner.

[defyingravity07]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 11:52am

And the overall positive response to Glees's version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-eD-AQjByQ

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 12:13pm

Massofmen, it all boils down to subjectivity. We all have our tastes. I happen to like the sound of the ROA or Journey version better.

[provocation]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 3:07pm

RoA is hard rock? That's hilarious.

And my bad for saying "broadcasted" as opposed to "broadcast." I've learned my lesson.

And I love how all of a sudden Lea Michele and the rest of the Glee cast is being compared to HSM. Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens wish they could sound this good.

[Weez]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 3:42pm

I honestly don't think Glee would have been made had High School Musical not been as appealing as it was. You may not like that, but I have a sneaking suspicion it's true.

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 6:20pm

"RoA is hard rock? That's hilarious."

Um, provocation AND defyinggravity (time to learn something) not only do you not know your tenses, you can't read either. This thread is about the song Don't Stop Believin, which is, hair metal rock, which is a form of hard rock.

and while we're at it-YES, ROA music is ALL hair metal rock, so yes, I would be correct on that point also. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Maybe you can read what it says on the link I posted below, but I"m not sure.

HAIR METAL-HARD ROCK BUFFED UP TO A GLOSSY SHEEN

^the above is the title on that web page.

http://80music.about.com/od/genresmovements/p/hairmetal.htm

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 7:31pm

"Jane if you think that RoA's DSB is "hard rock" then you need to get your ears cleaned. That is POP-ROCK."

Now THERE'S something funny! I'd LOVE you to say that to Joel Hoekstra, actually about ANY song from ROA.

You're funny. "pop rock" - way to compare Journey to Debbie Gibson~

[defyingravity07]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 7:36pm

It may not be "Pop Rock" but it's FAR from "Hard Rock".

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/30/09 at 7:40pm

I'm sorry but you're incorrect. ROA is a show based on the hair metal rock music of the 80's. Hair metal is glamorized hard rock.