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I think Idina's poor nights are usually those when she is not feeling well. I completely agree with you; I think she needs to learn when to take off, so she can keep her voice going 100% and be more consistent.

I don't think any of this makes her less worthy of the Tony win. I think what she did with the role is highly commendable. She dove into all the layers of that character and sees every complexity of her, and she has made this character completely come to life...and I don't think that a few inconsistent nights vocally should make her less worthy of the Tony. She has done incredible dramatic work in Wicked, and, probably more often than not she nails the toughest notes in that show. Look at the other options for the win this year. You have Stephanie D'Abruzzo, who supposedly does wonderful for the role she has, but her competition was too stiff. Then there's Tonya Pinkins, who many people on this site think should have won...but she is far more inconsistent vocally than Idina. There's also Donna Murphy, whose vocals in Wonderful Town fail to impress much. Then you have Kristin Chenoweth, who is beeautiful every night vocally, but her acting just doesn't hold a candle to the work of the other ladies. So if you are gonna judge based on vocals, I think Idina still is more worthy than the other ladies, of course, with the exception of Chenoweth, who as I said before, just wasn't as impressive of an actress.

And I think maybe some people are leaning towards Eden because they remember Idina on letterman, the Tonys, and on the CD...none of which do her performance justice.

And though Idina's contract ends January 2nd, it has not been announced as her last show. She could always extend it. For now, it is just assumed that she will not renew.

Oh, ok. Oooops.

I really don't think anyone here wants to attack Idina. Idina's fabulous. I think the point of this thread is to say how fabulous EDEN is too. Some people like her better then Idina (as I do), that does not mean Idina sucks. They are two of the greatest singers around. By saying you like one better than the other, you are not saying the other is horrible and sucks, unless you come upfront and just say "So and So sucks." But this isn't really what it's about, because if so and so sucked, so and so wouldn't be on Broadway, would they?

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Hold up guys.. I'm new to the board and just went surfing around after seeing Wicked 2 weeks ago. Idina was out and Eden Espinosa took her place. I was upset but found it amazing nonetheless. I have bought tickets to Aug 12 hopefully to see Idina. But are you guys telling me that I'm not the only one to Love Eden? I can't compare cause I haven't seen Idina yet but I thought she was Great. However, I bought the CD and after hearing Idina I can see she has a more "powerful" voice and it actually made my hairs stick up. What is Brooklyn? Is that a new show coming soon to star Eden? Sorry so many questions

Gypsy - Eden starred in that original workshop production right? Is Brooklyn a musical or drama?

I saw Eden back in April and i think she's fierce. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Idina, don't get me wrong but Eden's top is so strong and her choices work better in alot of cases. I'm in no way knocking Idina, but I really enoyed Eden's vocal ad libs in her own numbers, although I know she gets in trouble for the one she does in No good deed, and I agree, it's to much! :) As for the post about Idina not being able to hit the notes Eden does at the end of gravity, that's false! :) They both sing the same high notes, just the riffs are different! And yes, Eden does sound cleaner cause she doesn't do it 8 times a week. idina MUST watch herself. She knows her voice and has great technique actually. It's just not worth hurting yourself!!! :) My dear friend had a zillion callbacks for Eden's cover in Brooklyn and the song Eden has to sing is OUT OF CONTROL!!! You'll LOVE IT FOLKS!!! She's gonna have quite a career I predict!!

From the heart of Brooklyn comes a band of soulful street-corner singers and storytellers. With a mix of pop and soul, they set their stage and tell a wondrous sidewalk fairy tale about a young girl searching for fame and the father she never knew. With just one clue to lead her, she lands in the city that bears her name…BROOKLYN.

Yeah.. found the info on it... Now...gotta see it... When are tickets going on sale??????????

Thanks Gypsy - Will do... Can't Wait...!!

I'm so happy I saw her in Wicked then. Is she still the standby for Idina with all this going on?

I would not compare it to Rent because the two are both very different.

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No no no, saying Eden has a stronger voice is NOT in any way saying Idina is ****. Don't worry.

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lol. Guys, we (or at least I) weren't saying any of you said that Idina was bad. We were just discussing why people might think that Eden is better...because MusicPos and I both seem to agree that Idina at her best is better than what we have heard of Eden, that's all.

And even us saying that is not saying Eden is bad. She has become one of my favorites and I would've been delighted to see her in Wicked.

Ok, first of all, if you've actually taken the time to read any of my posts, you'd know the answers to your question. I said that I have never seen Kristin perform poorly, which does not mean that she never has. Second, I've only seen one amazing performance by Idina, the first was only ok. Her performance at the Tonys, certainly makes me wonder, but I can certainly understand how nerves would play a role in something like that. However, on this board, there have been many posts of Idina playing sick, including one time where she had to sing "Defying Gravity" down an octave and have Eden replace her in the middle of the show. When she was out a lot either a month or two ago, she still performed in some shows, and my guess is that some of that time she would be sick since illness don't just randomly disappear and reappear with that number. So, no, I haven't seen all myself, but going by what other people have said, I would think that Idina has a problem knowing when to take a night off (especially if she went on so sick she couldn't do the part b/c her throat was sore). If any student of mine tried to do something like that, I'd throw a hissy fit b/c that's a great way to damage the voice. As far as my post on this board, my point was that since this can be an issue with Idina, maybe the people the like Eden better have never seen Idina at her best. Another point on this is the recordings (including the ones on the Eden site) show great acting ability, but vocally, she's often flat and tight. Now, since I have where those clips came from, I know it was her first performance as Elphaba, and between the poor quality and the nerves, I'd be willing to believe she's much better in person, but as good as Idina at her best? I just don't see it. Since I haven't seen her, I can't say for myself anything other than posing the question. Some seem to agree that Idina can be inconsistant, which could account for the reaction to Eden. I'm not saying that Eden isn't good, but to compare her to Idina, I can't see it. Although, that one night, I would've rather seen Eden, and I think Eden should've gone on.