#51
Posted: 7/19/05 at 11:58pm
I don't really think "Think of Me" is an opera song. So no, she wasn't singing opera because they weren't really opera songs.
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#52
Posted: 7/19/05 at 11:59pm
The material in 'Phantom' isn't remotely opera, never has been, never will be.
#53
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:03am
this is kinda off subject... but hilary duff doesn't sing all her vocals, so she shouldn't be compared to Emmy.
#54
Posted: 7/20/05 at 12:06am
The material in 'Phantom' isn't remotely opera, never has been, never will be.
I beg to differ. If anything, it's really close.
I beg to differ. If anything, it's really close.
#55
Posted: 7/20/05 at 1:34am
"I'm going to create a new genre of hip-hopera and it's going to be really popular"
korenglish, can you tell me where that quote came from? thanks.
anyway, I love Emmy, I think she did great with what she had to work with, its not like Joel Schumacher is the most inspired director. also her voice is getting much better. her performance on Good Morning America alone showed how much her voice improved.
korenglish, can you tell me where that quote came from? thanks.
anyway, I love Emmy, I think she did great with what she had to work with, its not like Joel Schumacher is the most inspired director. also her voice is getting much better. her performance on Good Morning America alone showed how much her voice improved.
#56
Posted: 7/20/05 at 1:58am
I'm looking at imdb, and it says her 18th birthday was 2004, when the Phantom movie AND Day After Tomorrow were both made...
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#57
Posted: 7/20/05 at 7:57am
Aigoo, interesting as she and others have said that she was 16 when she made the movie.
And, off topic, I know. But I think Hilary Duff is a HORRIBLE actress and singer. I have hated her acting since Lizzie McGuire (sp?) and have since come to never listen to her music but from hearing it on the radio? Never will. I can't even compare her to Emmy Rossum.
And, off topic, I know. But I think Hilary Duff is a HORRIBLE actress and singer. I have hated her acting since Lizzie McGuire (sp?) and have since come to never listen to her music but from hearing it on the radio? Never will. I can't even compare her to Emmy Rossum.
"This table, he is over one hundred years old. If I could, I would take an old gramophone needle and run it along the surface of the wood. To hear the music of the voices. All that was said." - Doug Wright, I Am My Own Wife
#58
Posted: 7/20/05 at 8:21am
And, off topic, I know. But I think Hilary Duff is a HORRIBLE actress and singer. I have hated her acting since Lizzie McGuire (sp?) and have since come to never listen to her music but from hearing it on the radio? Never will. I can't even compare her to Emmy Rossum.
Meeeeeeeeeee too
whiskedaway- I remember her saying that during this press interview before the Oscars..
Meeeeeeeeeee too
whiskedaway- I remember her saying that during this press interview before the Oscars..
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#59
Posted: 7/20/05 at 8:34am
Ughh Emmy Rossum definitely canNOT act. She was terrible in Phantom, she gave absolutely no depth to the role. You can say it was the material, however I beg to differ. There are plenty of actresses out there who could have given Christine a characteristic other than "clueless". (Oh my gawd! That's like the Phantom of the Opera! In my mirror! *insert signature deer-in-headlights stare*)
Furthermore her singing was less than brilliant. I know mannnnny singers who are MUCH better than her... And my school doesn't even have a music program for which you have to audition. Let's be honest, folks. Her voice was totally uneven and not focused at all. YES, she was 16. However, if at 16 she cannot perform up to standards in the role, then she should not be cast. Period.
Phantom of the Opera is one of my all time favs. in musical theatre, I'm not even gonna lie. (I know, I can hear you guys rolling your eyes... whatever). However, with my limited musical background (I am a decent singer but no Kristin Chenoweth or anything) *I* can tell flat out that she needs a lot of training. Furthermore, I waited with baited breath for that premiere... I was so excited I could barely contain myself... and I was totally and utterly disappointed. That's saying something, folks. It doesn't take much to please this girl. I loooove Wicked, think that Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is brilliant, in fact I even love Rodgers & Hammerstein. However I thought that it was a total mistake to cast Emmy and don't even get me started on Gerard.
Hmph.
However, in summary, my thoughts are that Emmy Rossum was totally unqualified and there are many, many other qualified actresses who could have done a better job. For Christ's sake, Julie Cooper from the OC is a trained coloratura soprano... I'd rather have seen her in all of her plastic surgery glory as Christine... if you need to put a "famous" or "hollywood" star in the role !!
Furthermore her singing was less than brilliant. I know mannnnny singers who are MUCH better than her... And my school doesn't even have a music program for which you have to audition. Let's be honest, folks. Her voice was totally uneven and not focused at all. YES, she was 16. However, if at 16 she cannot perform up to standards in the role, then she should not be cast. Period.
Phantom of the Opera is one of my all time favs. in musical theatre, I'm not even gonna lie. (I know, I can hear you guys rolling your eyes... whatever). However, with my limited musical background (I am a decent singer but no Kristin Chenoweth or anything) *I* can tell flat out that she needs a lot of training. Furthermore, I waited with baited breath for that premiere... I was so excited I could barely contain myself... and I was totally and utterly disappointed. That's saying something, folks. It doesn't take much to please this girl. I loooove Wicked, think that Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is brilliant, in fact I even love Rodgers & Hammerstein. However I thought that it was a total mistake to cast Emmy and don't even get me started on Gerard.
Hmph.
However, in summary, my thoughts are that Emmy Rossum was totally unqualified and there are many, many other qualified actresses who could have done a better job. For Christ's sake, Julie Cooper from the OC is a trained coloratura soprano... I'd rather have seen her in all of her plastic surgery glory as Christine... if you need to put a "famous" or "hollywood" star in the role !!
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#60
Posted: 7/20/05 at 8:40am
"Aigoo, interesting as she and others have said that she was 16 when she made the movie"
When filming began in early September 2003, she was 16. She turned 17 during the course of filming.
Interesting, all the different opinions. Personally, I thought she sounded fine.
When filming began in early September 2003, she was 16. She turned 17 during the course of filming.
Interesting, all the different opinions. Personally, I thought she sounded fine.
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#61
Posted: 7/20/05 at 9:52am
I could watch the whole movie again just to hear/watch the part where she sings "consume us" in "Point Of No Return". Don't ask me why, because I honestly don't know, but I love it to death.
Other than that, Emmy had three facial expressions the entire movie (previously mentioned...first page, I think) and her singing was less-than-superb. I agree with whoever said she sounded better low...and then better towards the end. Eh, whatever.
Other than that, Emmy had three facial expressions the entire movie (previously mentioned...first page, I think) and her singing was less-than-superb. I agree with whoever said she sounded better low...and then better towards the end. Eh, whatever.
#62
Posted: 7/20/05 at 10:07am
Yeah, she doesn't do a whole lot for me either. I thought she was pretty terrible in Phantom, but then again, so was everyone else...I'm not so sure it was her being so sub-par, or if it could be chalked up to bad direction, etc. She seems nice enough in interviews and stuff, but I've yet to see what the hooplah is about.
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#63
Posted: 7/20/05 at 11:43am
Well I got to say that I rather watch Emmy Rossum play the role (screen or stage) than Sandra Joseph who I think is the WORST casting to play Christine - EVER!! She can't sing the role and she definitely can't act it.
#64
Posted: 7/20/05 at 1:40pm
Emmy Rossum was certainly one of the bright spots in "Mystic River" (perhaps because she was one of the few people permitted to smile in that movie), so my hopes were high for "Phantom" and I was quite disappointed. Jennifer Ellis, who played Meg, was much more interesting and engaging in an "Alice in Wonderland" way (watch the brief scene where she ventures behind the Phantom mirror and is stopped by Miranda Richardson). Emmy's singing was decent but hardly stirring (especially when set against the genuine operatic soprano who dubbed Minnie Driver's vocals) and her "acting" so unvarying that in the cemetary scene, as she wanders around singing "Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again", one's thoughts wander to the dry-ice smoke swirling around her (where is it coming from? Is her cape on fire?).
Let's be honest, though--no one had a chance in that movie once Joel Schumacher was signed (and once he hired dead-voiced, underwhelming Gerard Butler--WHY???). The only person who survived was Minnie Driver, by hamming it up.
Let's be honest, though--no one had a chance in that movie once Joel Schumacher was signed (and once he hired dead-voiced, underwhelming Gerard Butler--WHY???). The only person who survived was Minnie Driver, by hamming it up.
I ask in all honesty/What would life be?/Without a song and a dance, what are we?/So I say "Thank you for the music/For giving it to me."
#65
Posted: 7/20/05 at 1:52pm
As soon as I heard Joel Schumacher was going to direct Phantom, first thing that came to my mind, Oh Crap.
#66
Posted: 7/23/05 at 11:51am
I think it casting was done all wrong... I don't understand why they chose Minnie Driver when she didn't even sing in the movie because her voice was not operetic enough.
And I disagree about Sant... because Sandra Joseph is MUCH better than Emmy Rossum. I saw her just recently on Broadway as Christine, and she did a great job with her emotions and the way she moved onstage... something emmy Rossum could never do. How could you even compare the two? Emmy is not talented enough, and she couldn't do the role 8 times a week because she couldn't even sing the high notes... I know that it isn't an easy note to sing, but there were others out in the world who could sing it and sing it well.
And thanks sallybrown, I think I heard it then... and also in a teen vogue magazine.
And I disagree about Sant... because Sandra Joseph is MUCH better than Emmy Rossum. I saw her just recently on Broadway as Christine, and she did a great job with her emotions and the way she moved onstage... something emmy Rossum could never do. How could you even compare the two? Emmy is not talented enough, and she couldn't do the role 8 times a week because she couldn't even sing the high notes... I know that it isn't an easy note to sing, but there were others out in the world who could sing it and sing it well.
And thanks sallybrown, I think I heard it then... and also in a teen vogue magazine.
#67
Posted: 7/23/05 at 11:55am
I can't stand Emmy Rossum. Her expression never changed through out the whole movie and when she spoke, it was so affected. And her singing isn't much better. Its so weak and hollow.
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#68
Posted: 7/23/05 at 12:03pm
I very much enjoyed Sandra Joseph.
Minnie had the comedy down.
Minnie had the comedy down.
#69
Posted: 7/23/05 at 12:11pm
I saw Minnie in Will and Grace a couple nights ago. Her and Megan Mullally in the same room is pure hysteria.
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#70
Posted: 7/23/05 at 12:22pm
I didnt really all of the posts, just stating i loved the movie and i loved her. but it doesnt take that much to impress me. some of you should take a lesson on this board lol. no offence, but alot of u need everything to be like perfect when you see a show or performer lol :). Not saying all of you, but there are some
#71
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:30pm
I don't think she's that talented. And she wasn't their first choice for Christine; Anne Hathaway was offered the part first.
Also I don't like how she has a head and ego the size of Texas...
Also I don't like how she has a head and ego the size of Texas...
#72
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:32pm
Derek, you're right. But we don't want perfection. We want excellence. And Emmy was "acceptable", but nowhere near the caliber of performance we were expecting.
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#73
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:40pm
Amazing to me that in all this discussion no one has brought up the movie "Songcatcher". In it Emmy Rossum is a girl in the Applachian mountains who sings all the country ballads for a visiting musicologist. It is an amazing movie an Emmy is amazing in it. Much more interesting than "Phantom", which I found beautiful but disappointing.
#74
Posted: 7/23/05 at 1:44pm
IMO, I thought that she was fantastic in the role!
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#75
Posted: 7/23/05 at 3:02pm
"she was probably,the worse actress i have ever seen."
Muscle, you obviously haven't seen Sandra Joseph in the role...
Muscle, you obviously haven't seen Sandra Joseph in the role...
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