GREY GARDENS Will Lose Its Entire Investment — Page 3

frontrowcentre2, amen. I love the ending quote, one of the most stiring eleven o'clock numbers ever written. Unfortunatly, its not in the Sound of Music, so so few have heard it. If I'm ever in Toronto, we should have lunch.

TechEverlasting, I feel the exact same way about recordings. I think if people bring these DVD's back to Wherever, USA, and show their friends, they may be prompted to see the show when they come to NYC. Beauty and the Beast is seen by hundreds at high schools and community theatres, yet it still has drawn the crowds, I think the same applies for other shows.

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Updated On: 7/3/07 at 08:59 PM

i'm planning on buying the souvenir program when i get to the theater on the 29th. hopefully there will still be some left!

I'll definitely see you at the stage door that afternoon...hopefully the whole cast will come out and sign.

I realize that the technical definition of flop is a show that doesn't make back its investment, but I still think it's worthwhile to distinguish between a "financial flop" and a "total flop".

Is Grey Gardens, with its awards, critical accolades and impressive run both off and on Broadway in any way similar to The Pirate Queen"?

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But there are some shows that are flops (financially) but are artistic successes and will have long lives in regional and community theatres.

As I have said before, the show's financial status onl;y really matters if you are an investor. The real test is whether a show has a life after Broadway.

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See, that's the problem when we attach labels. We say the word "flop" and automatically people are up in arms saying that GREY GARDENS = PIRATE QUEEN.

Let's not attach labels. Let's just discuss the show at hand and each show on a case by case basis without the simplicity of single word labels. Labeling is a lazy man's excuse for thinking.

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Updated On: 7/4/07 at 10:13 AM

But Foster, the thing is, in terms of money, Grey Gardens = Pirate Queen. Both were flops.

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Since only one in five shows (or one in four in a good year) recoups, there are always a large number of financial "flops" so GG is in good company. I agree with the earlier statement that putting aside the investors' interests (with love and kisses for their money and courage), GG has definitely had a very positive impact by expanding the subject matter of musical theater and by providing the two main characters with an opportunity to shine.