Gavin Creel, Raul Esparza, Cheyanne Jackson

[jazzyshinyfeet]

Posted: 7/20/05 at 2:02pm

Does anyone know the romantic status of Gavin, Raul and Cheyanne?
Are they single, married, dating???
Just curious, they are all so talented and interesting.

Posted: 7/20/05 at 2:04pm

According to Broomstickboy Cheyenne is spoken for:

"Chey has been in a relationship for the past five years. Happily coupled"

[gymman]

Posted: 7/20/05 at 2:06pm

Esparza is married
Creel has a partner

[eslgr8]

Posted: 7/20/05 at 10:38pm

Only Cheyenne is openly gay and happily discusses his partner in interviews. Gavin Creel has never come out publicly, so you'll never hear him talk about his "private" life. Haven't read anything at this site about Esparza's orientation, though Creel has been "outed" in numerous threads.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/20/05 at 10:41pm

Gavin hasn't necessarily been "outed" on boards or anything. He's openly gay, but doesn't talk about it as much as Cheyenne does. I don't want to say he's less proud or anything, because I don't know the guy, but it's certainly no secret that he is gay. Just because he doesn't speak about it in his interview the way someone like Cheyenne or Christopher Sieber is doesn't mean he's not out publically, it just means that he chooses not to focus on it, when talking about his work, for one of any million possible reasons.

Raúl is married, as someone said. Has been for over ten years. He is, in general, extremely quiet about his personal life, as far as interviews and things go.

Updated On: 7/20/05 at 10:41 PM

[eslgr8]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:39am

Just to clarify, "Openly gay" means one thing only. The performer has made a public statement (on TV, to a newspaper, magazine, etc.) that he is gay. I don't believe that Gavin Creel has done so. As with many others in his position, it may be simply a matter of time, as it was with Christopher Sieber for example, until he is "out," which as far as the media is concerned, means the same thing, an on-the-record declaration.
Example:
"I am gay," said Steven Stanley aka eslgr8.
Therefore, I am openly gay, at least to anyone who reads this website.
:)
Updated On: 7/21/05 at 02:39 AM

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 8:36am

Well, that's just a technicality. He's certainly out about it, but perhaps not with media. So, do what you will, I don't know, call him half-out. Or, don't be so sure until you've seen every single piece of media on the guy and know that it hasn't mentioned his sexuality - it's his deal, not really ours. I think it's silly, really, because the community isn't at all blind to this guy's sexuality, even though it's possibly never appeared in an article; maybe that's because the publicity about him is about his work, as it should be.

I completely applaud Cheyenne, and other actors who do what he does, but not everyone should be expected to do so, or looked down upon because they do not. I'd think that individuals in a similar situation would understand this.

Raúl has joked about a boyfriend in an online Q&A. Does that make it our responsibility to dig through his personal affairs and see if it's true, just so we'll have someone else who's publically out, or so we can clamour about how he should be? That's extremely unfair to him.

Updated On: 7/21/05 at 08:36 AM

[LaCageAuxFollesFan2]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 8:53am

Yes Cheyenne has a partner, Raul is married, and Gavin Creel has publicly said he is gay at various events more than once...I also recall him saying he is quite happy on his own these days and not needing anybody, loving life, and living through his music. GOOD FOR ALL OF THEM!

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:12pm

luv no one expects anyone to come out. But we who are openly gay are not going to afford the title to someone who isn't. And please, celebrating your homosexuality in a cabaret room with 100 people is not being openly gay.

and I don't need to see every piece of media. The fact that he doesn't share information about his personal life(and by that I mean only his sexual preference)then he's not out.

"He's openly gay. He just doesn't talk about it." Well we know that being gay is something that can be seen for miles by anyone. What need is there to speak about it. Black people don't go around saying "I'm Black" .....is this the logic you are using luv?

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:15pm

What events has he openly declared himself gay?

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:17pm

Why can't people just be who they are without having to announce it to the world every five minutes. Straight people don't go around saying they are straight. Why is it so important for gays (and I am one) to shove the label down the throats of the public. I am not saying to hide in the closet, but is there a need to label ones self every time they leave their home? They are who they are, they love who they love, they are friends with who they are friends with. That is all that should identify them to others who are not within their close circle. It will continue to be difficult for gays to enter the mainstream if we continue to act as if we need to make "the statement" everytime we go out. Act as if what you are doing is normal and it becomes normal and others who haven't been exposed to it become desensitized to it. If I act as if it is no big deal to be gay, then it is not a big deal to others.

Updated On: 7/21/05 at 01:17 PM

[loganp37]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:29pm

Is Raul Esparza gay?

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:49pm

Chita, if you're going to quote me and refute what I say, at least finish the sentence. The way you've extracted part of my comment completely changes the meaning. I didn't say he doesn't talk about it at all - which you'd get from reading LaCageFan's comment about events - I'm saying he doesn't talk about it AS MUCH as someone else, like Cheyenne Jackson, for example. If he didn't talk about it at all, then no, he certainly couldn't be considered openly gay. THAT is my logic - don't twist my words.

Is Raul Esparza gay?
Does it matter?

Why can't people just be who they are without having to announce it to the world every five minutes. Straight people don't go around saying they are straight.
I was thinking about saying the same thing. baddadnpa, and I'm glad you did. But being straight, I'm sure people would've just gone "well, you don't understand." And you know what? I don't understand. I'm perfectly aware that I have no idea what it's like to have to come out, or to feel like you have to hide. But it's not even an issue of that - it's an issue of having respect for people being the way the want to be, and respect for their right to deal with things as they see fit. It's such a personal thing - why impose your way of viewing it on someone else? Live and let live.

Updated On: 7/21/05 at 01:49 PM

[keggss23]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:49pm

Amen, Baddadnpa!!!!

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:55pm

i agree with baddad. Why can't we just stay in the back of the bus? Who needs the mainstream and survivor benefits, hospital visitation rights, etc? Why can't we be glad that we are not hunted down and jailed for being deviants.

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:55pm

Chita, you are an ass. Don't put words in my mouth or attempt to read things that aren't there.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:57pm

baddadnpa, I think you're my favorite person today.

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:57pm

Show me the luv, Luv!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:58pm

I can't, I only show "lofe."

Posted: 7/21/05 at 1:59pm

Straight people don't go around announcing they are gay?! Are you delusional? What do you call public displays of affection, wedding announcements, weddings? You are not my favorite person today luv.

Luv's logic is Gavin tells a couple of homosexuals that he's gay....suddenly he's out. WRONG!

"Chita, you are an ass." baddad your debating technique is quite impressive



Updated On: 7/21/05 at 01:59 PM

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:05pm

And there is nothing in my post that indicates that gays shouldn't do that, is there? I didn't say that gays should only show affection behind closed doors, did I? Pick out the quote if its there.

I said they should live their lives, love who they love, etc. Part of loving who they love is holding their hand in public or kissing them hello/goodbye, etc in a public place.

But why does someone need to go up to a loudspeaker and announce to the world that they are gay just to satisfy the militant gays who feel it is the duty of every gay person to shout their sexual preference from the mountain top.

I am out - I live with two men, hold hands in public, kiss them hello when we meet out of the house after a day at work - just like the straight people do. I don't put on a straight face and sneak back home, close the door and bend over. But I'll be damned if I am going to let any militant asshole tell me I need to constantly remind everyone I meet that I like taking the bone.

What I don't and won't do is put on my pink triangle and wear it out because someone expects me to. This isn't Nazi Germany.

I am a proud gay man who is not solely defined by my homosexuality and I will be damned if I let you or anyone else define me that way alone.

Updated On: 7/21/05 at 02:05 PM

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:16pm

I think all that pride is getting in your way. Try being a bit more humble.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:18pm

I don't really give a damn, Chita. Right back at you.

Again, don't put words in my mouth, and don't twist what I say. You can't seriously believe that that's what I'm saying; I worded it well enough that any idiot could get what I mean. Stop busting my chops just so things turn in your favor. This argument really isn't about me.

Updated On: 7/21/05 at 02:18 PM

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:18pm

Actually, I am extremely humble. I get riled up when the short sighted attempt to pigeon-hole me or put words in my mouth.

Posted: 7/21/05 at 2:29pm

No one objects to discussing straight alliances between theatre acors but if mention is made about the romantic aspect of a closeted actor people like baddad and luv start screaming "why can't we just live our lives without labels! boo hoo"

Because there is a different standard. The private lives of our actors are a national obsession. This country has a demented fascination with "private life."
Updated On: 7/21/05 at 02:29 PM