Gay presence at the Tonys- Page 8

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:09pm

no, no, you guys have been bringing it these many pages of posts! Ultimately, this has been a great debate.

And hopefully, iluv will come to a BWW gathering so we can smack the crap out of him a little before buying him a drink and trying to molest him as is known to occur at BWW gatherings.

[cserannie]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:14pm

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf as a musical? Funny. It's interesting that an american who lives in Chicago haven't got a slidest idea about the play and a Hungarian gilr has (me). I could scream, really.

And I guess everyone should kisses he/she likes but just in the solid and gentle way. I mean I don't like that either if a male actor kisses his wife in a hard way in front of the cameras. (Angelina Jolie and B. Bob Thornton).

Updated On: 6/7/05 at 01:14 PM

[rKrispyt]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:16pm

JRB - yeah, tug at your ear or do the chicken dance or something so we know it's you, lol

Midwest, that stuff about the radio show...damn, that pisses me off. Grrr. That's all I can say. ....they were really DISCUSSING that they feel weird watching the Wolverine movies cause Hugh Jackman gets a little too into hosting the Tony awards? Damn, some people be ignorant. Seriously, how do people like that remember to breathe in and out on a regular basis?

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:29pm

Smack me around and then molest me?

That really makes BWW gatherings seem appealing. (Note: Do I smell sarcasm?)

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:31pm

No sarcasm. Only punishment and then penance

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:31pm

Eventually, in time, perhaps iluv will not only develop a more secure sense of his place in the world, but a sense of humor as well.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 1:43pm

Iluv,
We were all your age, so please (speaking for myself) please dont take what I say but from a place of understanding....just trying to help you see what others heard in your comments.

(feeling guilty...GEEZ!)

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 2:47pm

I was fine with the discussion until I got PMs stating I was a homophobe and a self-hating gay. And then later was called selfish for not wanting to jump right into all the movements.

Also, DGrant, I was joking about the smacking and molesting. Perhaps I'm not the only one who needs a sense of humor?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 2:52pm

iluv - that's cool if you were joking - it just wasn't apparent to me. Sorry.

[TheColorOfFlame]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 2:56pm

You didn't say YOU didn't want to jump into the movements.

That would have been a lovely sentiment and utterly respected, admired even.

You said it bothered you when OTHER people jumped into the movements. You "hate" politics at awards shows.

:)

[Elphaba]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:03pm

anything Iluv says just pisses me off, so I am going to bow out of this one......rather than say what I really want to.....cause honey, you just ain't worth me getting riled up over

and Iluv, when you do "find the strength", I hope it's not too late.......

[MyDreamsRecurring]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:13pm

it will be interesting how the rest of the world/media responds to Maureen and Joanne in Rent

[TGIF]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:20pm

Well I think there has been some sort of acceptance (I don't know if you would call it that) of a "hot lesbian couple" amongst the average American teenager (or certainly in movies and TV shows). I would be more interested to see their reaction to Collins and Angel's relationship.

What I am even more interested is to see middle americans reaction to Collins being a black gay male. I have heard so much about black men who are on the downlow about their sexual orientation, I am just curious if any of this will be brought up when the movie comes out.

[Aigoo]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:24pm

Is it just that people are born close minded? I've never really had a problem with gay or hetero relationships. I mean, somethings may be raunchy and that sort of disturbs me, but I think I was just raised a pretty open-minded person. And I might add that I lived a pretty sheltered life (even went to a Christian private school until 7th grade), and when I was first exposed to same-sex relationships, I had no problem at all. We can't really attack people for the way they think. Granted, they can be changed, but it will take some time. If people did not disagree with most of today's issues, we wouldn't have the marvelous efforts that people give in order to change the views of some of these people.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:30pm

"Is it just that people are born close minded?"

To quote SOUTH PACIFIC, "You must be carefully taught . . ."

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 3:48pm

We've come along way, but have so much more to go...it feels great to have so much acceptance, and too easy to forget/ignore how little freedom we still have.

I just saw the Rent trailer and got a tear that they included a kiss between Joanne and Maureen and Angel and Collins...beautiful!

It is great to look over our shoulders and see how far we've come, but there is so much work to do...

Golly, I'm sounding pretty old

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 6:06pm

Im sorry i didnt know that Sarah Paulson was a lesbian.. Go her!

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 6/7/05 at 6:24pm

"Is it just that people are born close minded?"

To quote SOUTH PACIFIC, "You must be carefully taught . . ."

Some people are just more susceptible to these teachings than others.