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#1

Glenn Close in Sunset

Saw the matinee yesterday and, well, tbh, I was somewhat disappointed. I saw the original at the Adelphi many times, the U.K. tour and also the Kathryn Evans revival a few years back and enjoyed all of the versions.

The main disappointment was actually Glenn Close. I know she has received unanimous rave reviews, but I was massively underwhelmed, even with her acting. i wasn't expecting fantastic singing (she clearly finds this score difficult now), but I was expecting a masterclass in acting. I actually found Betty Buckley and Elaine Paige's versions much superior. Close completely flubbed lines two or three times, especially during her final 'mad' scene and she rambled slightly to 'get it back', but it was very noticeable.



The introduction of the ghost of young Norma just didn't work for me. The montage at the end (whilst Betty was on the road to Norma's) showing, I assume, the random thoughts of Joe towards Norma and her actions worked well though.

The pared-down production itself works well and the music sounded beautiful. In my opinion, however, the reviews completely flattered Close. I didn't see her as a star turn at all (certainly not in the league of Staunton's performance in Gypsy). I wanted to like her, but was unmoved and slightly 'so what's all the fuss about?' at the end. She was well-received, though, and got a standing ovation - but I just couldn't really see why. I really felt I had seen better Normas.



#2

Glenn Close in Sunset

I felt the same back in the day but was in the minority with my opinion. Having Seen LuPone, Close, Buckley and Paige I found Buckley to be the standout.


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#3

Glenn Close in Sunset

I've seen LuPone, Close, Buckley, Paige, Clark as well as Daniela Ziegler and her alternate Cristina Grimandi in Germany. All these ladies brought in something special. If all of them I think Betty Buckley was the best.

Having said that, I saw the premiere of the ENO production as well as the second performance and will be there at the last show (Sunset is an old favorite!). While it did not feature my favorite Norma, Glenn Close was fantastic in every imaginable sense, and the production, though a staged concert, captured the grandeur and the essence of the original version, luckily erasing memories of the recent actor/musician nonsense that was on the West End a few years ago (I saw that too, but don't count that along with the second US tour). I don't think this is a conversation of the best Norma when it comes to this production, although with no doubt the Brits showed much appreciation and love to Glenn Close. A few years ago when Patti LuPone did her concert at Leicester Sq Theatre with Seth Rudetsky, she performed With One Look for the first time because of the overwhelming demand and love of the show in London amongst its fans. I think it just showed that London actually LOVES Sunset Boulevard, and that there is warm welcome to just about any formidable Norma.

#4

Glenn Close in Sunset

Sparepart973 - You are right when you say there is love for Sunset in London. It is one of my personal favourites too - I've seen it more times than I should admit (with LuPone, Buckley, Paige, Faith Brown, Kathryn Evans). I also saw the LuPone concert you mentioned where she sang 'With One Look'.



You're also correct when you say that this is not a 'who is the best Norma?' thread. I did enjoy the ENO version and the story was captured very well. The reviews, however, seemed to centre around the stand-out performance of Glenn Close, but whilst I thought she was OK in the role, I couldn't, in all honesty, class it as anywhere near one of the best theatrical performances I have seen. To me, I couldn't see anything that was superior in her acting to that of other Normas. Maybe it was just the performance I saw.

Like I said, I enjoyed the production overall, but I was unmoved and unaffected by her Norma. I'm still glad I have seen it though, as there were many aspects of the show itself that I enjoyed.

#5

Glenn Close in Sunset

Sorry, but she stinks singing that role 30 years ago. I can't imagine it now.

Patti forever!

#6

Glenn Close in Sunset

Come on, Patti wasn't good in it. Yes, the score she had to sing was harder, but she sounded exactly like a owl and her acting was a true embarrassment. It's her worst performance after Passion and A Little Night Music. I mean, even Patti said she wasn't perfectly cast for the role, just perfectly cast to sing it.

#7

Glenn Close in Sunset

^ Thank you. I wouldn't really say Patti stank because she is a magnificent talent and pretty much a living legend.

The problem with Patti's Norma wasn't entirely her fault. Patti was misdirected from the start. Andrew Lloyd Webber wasn't too involved. The creative team only really figured it out once they did the production in LA with Glenn Close, where Nunn and Lloyd Webber were very hands on and decided to up their game. They opened it in London again based on LA with Betty Buckley (divine) and John Barrowman and it finally clicked.

I seriously think that if the show re-opened again with Patti basing it on the LA blue print, she would have been much better. Her singing was of course beautiful.

Updated On: 4/7/16 at 03:02 PM

#8

Glenn Close in Sunset

It is not often that you have the opportunity to see an actress reprise a musical stage role over twenty years later (yes, I have heard of Carol Channing), and Ms. Close’s “return” was impressive. Her voice is still relatively intact, although she used her head voice more frequently and with less power. However “As if we Never Said Goodbye” was presented in all of its glory, and brought many in the audience to tears, including myself. The Norma I remembered was definitely back for that moment.

Overall, Ms. Close seemed to focus more on Norma’s vulnerability, playing her as a schoolgirl overcome with emotion rather than the formidable Miss Desmond that she presented in the original production. Yes, she has her vulnerabilities and is greatly unbalanced, but she manipulates those around her like a skilled puppeteer. Lines that once cut through like a dagger seemed to just float through the air and never land. The fact that she chose not to enter wearing Norma’s signature turban spoke volumes; it appeared that she wished to present a softer Norma from her first entrance.

Have I told all my New York friends to hop on a plane and go see this production? No. If this comes to New York would I recommend it? Yes. But I am just one of those “wonderful people in the dark”. Everyone has their own experience and their own opinion. My deepest admiration goes to Ms. Close, who took on a tremendous challenge to great acclaim.



Updated On: 4/7/16 at 10:25 PM

#9

Glenn Close in Sunset

imeldasturn said: "Come on, Patti wasn't good in it. Yes, the score she had to sing was harder, but she sounded exactly like a owl and her acting was a true embarrassment. It's her worst performance after Passion and A Little Night Music. I mean, even Patti said she wasn't perfectly cast for the role, just perfectly cast to sing it.



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Actually, I find LuPone rather brilliant on the OLC recording. It's the show that stinks, not she. Granted, she doesn't look like a woman who would have been a silent film star, but I believe I could get past that if I ever saw her play it live. (No, I am not one of the LuPonistas, just giving credit where credit is due.)

I DID see Close in LA, twice. Her camping hid the weakness of the material somewhat, but ultimately she and the show were simply dull. Don't get me wrong: I think Close is a very, very talented film actress; I just haven't found her exceptional in stage musicals (and I am counting BARNUM).

Updated On: 4/7/16 at 10:58 PM

#10

Glenn Close in Sunset

The reception to the current concert version seems like extreme star-f*cking to me, I'm afraid. Elaine Paige was the one who made this uneven show work best for me.

#11

Glenn Close in Sunset

imeldasturn said: "Come on, Patti wasn't good in it. Yes, the score she had to sing was harder, but she sounded exactly like a owl and her acting was a true embarrassment. It's her worst performance after Passion and A Little Night Music. I mean, even Patti said she wasn't perfectly cast for the role, just perfectly cast to sing it.



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Tend to pretty much agree with this. While Patti can sing, she could never act the role like Close. Glenn Close fully embodies the role. I'd argue Paige has done the second best job. I don't believe Patti was able to convey that necessary sense of vulnerability to the audience, which is desperately needed when playing this role.

I have always felt for Patti regarding the way ALW handed the situation. She deserved better. At least she was paid out.

Updated On: 4/8/16 at 08:36 AM

#12

Glenn Close in Sunset

Honestly, you people.

Not going to be remotely deterred, going tomorrow.


Why don't you go? Why don't you leave Manderley? He doesn't need you... he's got his memories. He doesn't love you, he wants to be alone again with her. You've nothing to stay for. You've nothing to live for really, have you?
#13

Glenn Close in Sunset

I don't know what Close did in New York. In LA, she played Norma Desmond as if she were playing Cruella DeVille. She got laughs, not pathos.

#14

Glenn Close in Sunset

I never saw the original production, but I have seen numerous bootlegs (I know, "it's not the same", I get it). I believe my favorite Norma is Glenn Close, closely followed by Betty Buckley. Unpopular opinion, I'm sure.

I was very excited when this production was announced, and was planning a trip to London just to see it - until very recently. Something about the look of it all and the word-of-mouth has turned me off. I believe the poster who said Close is portraying Norma as more vulnerable than she did before, and I can't help but imagine her work & family's history with mental illness has something to do with that. I could also just be reading into things...

However, if this transferred to NY, I would have to check it out. I actually enjoy this show (minus the ensemble numbers) and will always kick myself for not getting into it sooner. I still hate myself for refusing to see the original RENT tour, because I figured it would be "too inappropriate".


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#15

Glenn Close in Sunset

I saw Close 20-odd years and 400 or 500 performances ago!

Nobody should base his ticket buying on my opinion. (I'm not saying you are, Giants.) As I said above, she's a very talented lady; I just felt her take on Norma was more from the outside, whence Norma must seem more than a tad ridiculous. At least on the recording, LuPone plays the character from the inside, with heartbreaking effect, whether or not anyone believes she is actually a silent film star. IMO, obviously.

#16

Glenn Close in Sunset

I agree, 20 years ago she was a bit over the top (still way better than Patti in the acting department, tbh), but in this new production she showed that revisiting a role can be good. Her performance at the ENO is nuanced and subtle, a really remarkable performance in every sense. I will never forget how fragile and moved she looked in "New Ways to Dream", when she was timidly miming the gestures of her younger self as Jeanne D'Arc. It's really a masterclass, the way she shifts from being fragile to fierce is incredible.

#17

Glenn Close in Sunset

I thought Paige was the best of them, having seen just about all (except Petula Clark and Diahann Carroll). In a way, she was the only Norma unafraid to borrow freely (steal, if that works) from Gloria Swanson. I thought it was Swanson's performance with songs added; she looked uncannily like her. And in a way, it gave the material new life, oddly enough. But Close put her mark on the show, and I thought she was fearless for not eschewing the outre aspects (how do you wear that drag and avoid inhabiting it fully?). Buckely, who so many here prefer, to me played the end of the show from the top, the victim Norma rather than the one fighting for the comeback. I thought her performance was by far the best sung, but devoid of humor, not even for an instant. I will stick with Paige.


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Updated On: 4/9/16 at 09:48 AM

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