Hairspraylasvegas.com
StandingO
Understudy Joined: 8/30/05
#0Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 1:50pmDick Latessa is opening the show with Harvey for 12 weeks only.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#2re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 3:13pm
I'm going on the record now...shows that go to Vegas in reduced form are sell-outs, period! Whatever happened to artistic integrity? The only excepton is The Phantom of the Opera, and like Joe Gillis says about "Salome" in Sunset Boulevard: "It could use a few cuts"!
MissNY
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/05
#4re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 3:19pmYeah, Debbie Reynolds as Tracy and Robert Goulet as Link.
#5re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 3:19pm
I agree with you Fosse. These adaptations of Broadway musicals are just cheap imitations of their former selves. There is no desire to further the story or produce a new and artistic version; rather, producers intend to sell more tickets. Period. No questions ask. However, this hasn't worked so far. No one's interested in a "junk food" Hairspray or Avenue Q.
Updated On: 11/14/05 at 03:19 PM
MissNY
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/05
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#7re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 3:37pm
"Avenue Q has not been cut down for Vegas"
No one said it did. In fact, they refused to trim the show.
BwayTheatre11
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/03
#8re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:43pm
"No one's interested in a "junk food" Hairspray or Avenue Q."
Yes, someone said it was cut down, just not in those exact words.
#9re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:45pm
Is anyone else really upset that they are cutting down Phantom and Spamalot???
I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#10re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:47pm
"Yes, someone said it was cut down, just not in those exact words."
Your supposition just twisted my words completely. You have made a completely false assumption.
Tsk tsk.
Is candy (junk food) a "cut down" version of real food? Of course not.
These Vegas shows are junk food versions of Broadway productions. They are poorly re-produced and don't deliver the same "nutrition", persay, that an authentic, meaningful, and original show should do. So, too, they are being produced for audiences that have little to no interest in seeing them.
Ergo, they are crap. And they fail. And they will continue to do so.
Try to twist that around. Good luck.
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#11re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:47pmI think Spamalot would actually be enjoyable if it was shorter. It's a short show to begin with, so making cuts shouldn't "ruin" the show too much.
#12re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:51pm
namffug...................shut up.............were you talking to me??
if you were................they are cut down..........they take out sections.............your analgy with the food simply shows how poor intalect you have.
Tsk Tsk.
BwayTheatre11
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/25/03
#13re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:54pmNasty people are not attractive...especially when they are nasty over Las Vegas productions.
#14re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 5:55pm
lol...............sorry
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#15re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 6:34pm
Any show that I have ever complained about or praised (with detail) I have seen.
If you are talking about Hairspray, I most certainly have seen it. Even though it has not yet opened in Vegas, I am "complaining" about the fact that producers are opening these "junk food" versions of successful Broadway shows. I'm not using Hairspray as a specific, obviously, but I am discussing the genre as a whole.
Updated On: 11/14/05 at 06:34 PM
#16re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 6:40pm
"These Vegas shows are junk food versions of Broadway productions. They are poorly re-produced and don't deliver the same "nutrition", persay, that an authentic, meaningful, and original show should do. So, too, they are being produced for audiences that have little to no interest in seeing them.
Ergo, they are crap. And they fail. And they will continue to do so."
Gee, that's interesting because almost all the critics that have seen both versions of Avenue Q say that the Las Vegas version is better - better production values (set, lighting, etc.) and better theatre. Of course, no one is saying that the cast is better, just that they are as good as the Broadway cast.
So if it does "fail", it won't be because it was a "crap" production. It will fail because the producers mis-judged the Las Vegas audience. So, I will give you points for "audiences that have little to no interest in seeing them", but I really think it's more that there just isn't a big enough audience to fill the theatre (which is 50% larger than Broadway). There seem to be many people that love this show in Las Vegas. I guess it'll be a while before we know if there were enough of them.
jaso_n
Stand-by Joined: 5/5/05
#17re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:30pmHere's the thing: People go to Vegas for more than to see productions like this. All the shopping and casinos and tours and clubs... woo. Whether Hairspray or WWRY or Avenue Q has stayed true to it's original format is a million miles away from people visiting Vegas. They just wanna be entertained for a while before going to the casinos.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#18re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:31pmYou can't use Avenue Q as an example, since they didn't cut any of it. I know they tweaked it, but it's not a "version" of the what's in New York, it's a second production. I think when a show is trimmed for Vegas, it has no business going to Vegas other than to sell out to The Man. No artistic integrity.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#19re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:36pm
I'm intrigued by this 'artistic integrity' thing. From where I sit, if someone creates something, they can pretty much do with it what they like - and MANY people like to do this to make money while entertaining other people - hence the term 'show BUSINESS'.
Vegas provides an opportunity to take their creations, modify them to fit the existing venue - and have it entertain and make money.
I'm not sure I'm seeing where this 'artistic integrity' discussion has meaning - except as compared to some vague academic construct that has little to no bearing on the real world.
#20re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:42pm
"Vegas provides an opportunity to take their creations, modify them to fit the existing venue - and have it entertain and make money."
Except Avenue Q is not entertaining or making money.
Explain.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#21re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 8:52pmThey wouldn't be chopping whole hours out of shows if they weren't being paid money to do it. They can always make changes to their show if they want.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#23re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 9:01pm
442 - the 'not entertaining' part is opinion, and is not open for discussion or explanation. Many people find it entertaining, you do not - that's the end of that avenue - so to speak. As for the making money part, it is a gamble (pardon the pun) that enough people will be brought into the theatre, and thereby the casino, to ultimately make it worth everyone's while. I'm relatively certain that the creators are pleased, as their money is coming through pre-arranged contracts. As for the casino - I neither know nor care what their financial situation is concerning the booking.
As to my posting, I found it necessary to remove all my old posts under DGrant - which was accomplished. Originally I thought I wouldn't be posting for awhile because of that, but for a variety of reasons, I am here participating.
#24re: Hairspraylasvegas.com
Posted: 11/14/05 at 9:31pmMany people come here specifically to see shows. A good amount of them don't go to shows just to be entertained before they gamble, they come for the shows.
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