No surprise New Line is doing “Hands on a Hardbody.” Not a fan of New Line’s work, so I am hoping “Hardbody” will turn up somewhere near Chicago in the not-so-distant future, where I will have another option to see it.
Leading Actor Joined: 8/6/09
A storefront in Chicago getting its hands on this would be GREAT.
I compare this show to Working. Both had to do with common everyday people
Question to those who are in the KNOW. Was HOAH considered a FLOP? I know it didnt last that long but i thought i remember some pretty good reviews.
The reason I ask is i was at Joe Allens, where they have posters of the biggest BDWY FLOPS. in fact it was right next to SCANDAL and LEAP OF FAITH.
I'm not "in the know", but I'm confident that these things always come down to semantics. Regardless of whether a show receives critical acclaim, to some people it will always be considered a "flop" if it doesn't at least recoup the financial investment but more likely generate a reasonable return on that investment. Of course, those folks are probably posting on a different message board!
Looking forward to the Theater Under the Stars (Underground) production of Hands on a Hardbody this spring in Houston.
Within the industry -- which Joe Allen's certainly qualifies as -- "flop" does not mean a show that closed during previews, or a show that no one liked, or a show that got no Tony nominations. "Flop" is a term for a show that did not earn back its initial investment. That's the only definition that matters to people who work in the industry.
And there are plenty of us on this board.
You're right; I was careless with the language. I was trying to draw a distinction between those who love theater (and make up the majority of the people on the board) and those who tally the receipts. But I acknowledge the distinction is irrelevant in the context of the word.
To decide whether or not a show is a success or a flop, can't be anything other than subjective. Than can only be done through financial stats -- if the investors break even, its a success, plain and simple.
Anything else is strictly opinion. EVERY show has fans, even Wonderland, even The Story of My Life, and Bonnie and Clyde. The box offices reciepts is the only way to quantify things.
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