Hey, WHITE CHRISTMAS Producers - KISS MY $&%!!!!! — Page 3

"They said they offered a student rush. I am a student. If they are offering a "limited student rush" or to persons under a certain age like some theaters do, that policy needs to be stated."

According to YOU, they did state that...

Jordan posted: "with a valid student ID from an "accredited university". And according to the box office that means that unless you go to a 4 year university, you ain't gettin' in."

Just get over it, Jordan. You're not attending an accredited 4 year university. You are going to an acting studio - that's not a University my dear.

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all for general rush

How did I insult you?

I merely stated the facts. They told you the Student Rush is for students who attend a 4 year accredited university.

You can b!tch all you'd like - I always enjoy your posts and your jokes. Truly, I do. But I'm really not sure what the problem is. I do apologize for their choice to not state that until you arrived...but...regardless, it is their box office.

I do not agree with the policy but what's done is done. I'm not sure you should be SO insulted. Perhaps you took their response the wrong way? It's irrelevant. I am not trying to insult you. Just trying to wrap my head around what's making you so angry about a silly ticket policy.

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Theatre is not a necessity... and they can't make something so ridiculous as a "General Rush" because Broadway is a business - it's sadly not for the people. Sorry.

So if it comes down to either groceries or theatre, take your pick. It is no one's right to see art. Because of the world we live in, it is now a luxury.

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Snob, you completely and utterly misread my statement. I said theatre is not a necessity and I only have a little money for non-essential items and for that reason depend on student rush to see theatre. What do you think the budgeting I mentioned is? It's necessities like rent, electricity and FOOD! I stopped getting takeout and live off of PBJ and frozen dinners now thanks to budgeting. I don't even go out to restaurants or bars with friends anymore. We grab $1 slices instead.

And you're wrong. Art, in all its shapes and forms is a necessity. Without art, how can we let our creative sides flourish? I know that if I didn't have an outlet, be it the exhibits at Metropolitan Museum of Art-which is donation only so I can hand over a buck and hang out there all day, or one of the many free concerts and performances that go on in the city-especially during the summer, or a book that I borrow from the New York Public Library, or the plays that I write in my notebooks when the urge consumes me during an insanely boring lecture on DVT prophylaxis, my soul would die and I don't mean that facetiously. I always have art at my fingertips. But I make sacrifices like movies and new clothes and cable tv to see theatre because that is where my heart lies.

And you know how else you go to see a show? You put one on yourself. Or you see a college production or an off-off-broadway production. Just the other week, I saw a cute little professional show for a whopping $18/ticket ($10 for students) and it was quite enjoyable.

Art IS a necessity of life. Broadway tix at $100 a pop (or even $25 when you don't have the extra cash) is not.

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LizzieCurry: "I completely agree. I hate the argument (used for both rush policies and bootlegs), "Well, how ELSE am I going to see a show?"

You don't.

Not everyone gets to see theatre. Not everyone gets to ride a limo or go to the top of the Empire State Building or see Paris, either. And there doesn't NEED to be a cheap way for everyone to do all of these things."

While I agree to a point, because in the end, theatre needs to make its money back, pay its workers/actors and make a profit for producers to make it worth their while to invest in the risk to begin with,

The rush was started back on Broadway with Rent to get the buzz going and enthusiasm up again. People lined up, others were curious. It created good PR and buzz.

And unless your show is selling out every day (so really, Wicked and Jersey Boys are excused of not offering any deals if they didn't want to), you would think other producers would want people talking about their show. If people deem it to expensive to see your show, no one will spread the word and get more people.

I get trying to limit rush to students because yah yah, they're poor and studying and not making money blah blah blah and its easier to control, but just open it up to general rush again and if people line up for 6 hours, so be it. They're willing to work hard to get the deal. They probably really want to see the show and might talk about it. (yeah yah, if they really wanted to see the show, they'll pay full price but I think a lots of people won't, and again, I think Broadway needs to entice MORE people to come to the theatre, not push them away at this point (again, if everything was selling out and nothing was closing, fine, but that's not how it is right now (unless you were A Steady Rain))

(And yah, I'm bitter cause I'm not a student anymore and when I was, it was mostly general rush or lottery. ha! Yes, I know I'm a wench!)

Also, if it is all general, then you don't get into the fine print of what is a student and what's not and Jordan wouldn't have had her problem in the first place. It basically becomes first come first serve.

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hubee - your argument makes little sense for the Producers.

Firstly, the amount of $$ they make from 8 people, at General Rush, could be made the same way by ONE person paying a full price ticket... and believe it or not, there are many people who still pay the old fashioned way. Full Price Orchestra seat.

Secondly, your theory about "spreading" the word and creating a buzz is fair enough. But that's also taking a risk. Even shows with the best discounts & policies have the worst 'word-of-mouth' reputation, etc., etc. So that's taking a big risk over something so silly like a GENERAL RUSH.

The industry will not cater to poor students. A few shows will attempt to but, overall, that's not their main purpose. It is a business - it's not an art. I'm sorry so many people still think differently.

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OMG LOL

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Jordan Catalano, I do believe that the comment regarding theatre and the arts being a need rather then a want was not directed at you, just something said in general.

Of course theatre is a want. As are any of the arts. Sure, they might make us think, they might make us view life differently or entertain us. But, unlike, let's say something like food, we can't get sick and possibly die with out them. I know that in NY state, there is no sales tax on clothing so long as each individual article you buy doesn't say more then 110 bucks on the price tag. And, in most places in the country, supermarkets are tax exempt due to the fact that people cannot live without food.

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Just in case it was lost in translation, my point to Jordan was that if it was general rush, there wouldn't have been an insult as to whether you were a "student or not".

Secondly, to musicsnob, exactly. plenty of people are willing to pay full price. so let them. But you can still have the 10-20 rush/lotto tickets you have and yeah, it'll attract the cheapies or diehards, but you're attracting a different set of people that prob wouldn't pay full price anyways. And it's not like youre doing the whole theatre rush. Just the 10-20. I mean. a producer doesnt have to offer it, but unless your show is sold out, then would you rather have an empty seat or make $20 off of it? $20 is still $20 and better than $0. (You can maybe hope that people will eventually pony up the $ for full price but again, unless it's a Steady Rain, I don't think shows have a lot of that pull anymore, especially when you're new and starting off (look at Memphis. No names, no buzz, but word of mouth (except on these boards) have been good and it's staying alive a lot longer than the vultures on these boards thought it would!)

And trombonist pointed out, Legally Blonde AND Jersey Boys, the two rushes with the biggest problems, WERE Student Rushes. And N2N while not student, basically attracted students mainly in the rush line.

And it's great that you are willing/can pay full price MusicSnob. I can't. So either I go see it cheap, or I don't go. Which is better than a the people I know in the industry who all wait for comps.

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I could have sworn Jersey Boys was a general rush...

And, of course, if theatre is a necessity for you, you can see theatre every night of the week in New York City for $20. It just might not be between 41st Street and 66th Street.

Not trying to be snarky. I'm new to the boards and not a New Yorker. But what exactly happened at Legally Blonde rush?