#26
Posted: 10/12/06 at 1:43pm
I think Tonya can't sing.
I absolutely hated "Caroline, or change" last night..... — Page 2
#27
Posted: 10/12/06 at 1:50pm
I am actually glad that I saw it before the cast recording was released. I think, for me, the impact was stronger. I found myself counting the days until its release after I saw it and was standing at the Virgin Records front entrance here in Denver waiting for them to open the day it was released! I sat and listened to it twice through when I got home. A few of the songs stuck in my head after seeing it, "I Hate The Bus", "Salty Teardrops" (I was still wiping the tears from "Lot's Wife" during the beginning of "Teardrops"!), Moon, Emmie and Stuart Trio and especially "I Saw Three Ships". And the final moments with Ms. Rose left me with goosebumps.
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#28
Posted: 10/12/06 at 1:52pm
I saw Tonya the year before in "House of Flowers" at Encores! I thought she was pretty bad, and her voice was weak.
I like her on All My Children, tho.
I like her on All My Children, tho.
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#29
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:02pm
This is not to look down on the original poster in any way, but I feel that if you didn't like the show, you missed the point.
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#30
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:22pm
"but I feel that if you didn't like the show, you missed the point."
Sooooo..if I didn't like Wicked, then I missed the point?
Sooooo..if I didn't like Wicked, then I missed the point?
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#31
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:25pm
But WICKED doesn't have a point.
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#32
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:32pm
Yes, it does.
Monarchy bad, green-hued dissidents, good.
As for Tonya, I was NEVER a fan. No to her acting, no to her voice.
Until I saw Caroline. I think she was this decade's tour-de-force performance a la Lansbury in Mame, Merman in Gypsy, and Channing in Dolly.
Monarchy bad, green-hued dissidents, good.
As for Tonya, I was NEVER a fan. No to her acting, no to her voice.
Until I saw Caroline. I think she was this decade's tour-de-force performance a la Lansbury in Mame, Merman in Gypsy, and Channing in Dolly.
#33
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:34pm
Not even in TWP, singer?
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#34
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:38pm
Yeah, no. I thought she was kind of weak in it. Then again, I couldn't take my eyes of of Toni in that.
#35
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:43pm
Let's not mention Toni Collette. Everytime I think of her I get so angry that she did not receive a Tony for that performance.
And Tonya Pinkins was brilliant through and through in COC. She deserved that Tony.
And Tonya Pinkins was brilliant through and through in COC. She deserved that Tony.
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#36
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:44pm
See, I kind of have to mention her (sorry to go off-topic). I wanted to throw a hammer at the TV when she effectively lost that Tony.
***back on topic***
Tonya should have had that Tony in the bag for Caroline. In the bag.
***back on topic***
Tonya should have had that Tony in the bag for Caroline. In the bag.
Updated On: 10/12/06 at 02:44 PM
#37
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:46pm
And you know she expected to win.
I mean, bitch wore a TIARA.
I mean, bitch wore a TIARA.
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#38
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:50pm
Like any of us wouldn't have?
#39
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:51pm
Oh well yeah.
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#40
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:53pm
Rath - I'm friends with one of her exes, and apparently the tiara isn't all that unusual 
I love this show. Life is mainly comprised of small moments, and this piece took small moments and tied them into the web that binds us all - artistically and beautifully.
I love this show. Life is mainly comprised of small moments, and this piece took small moments and tied them into the web that binds us all - artistically and beautifully.
#41
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:55pm
LOL!! Good to know!!
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#42
Posted: 10/12/06 at 2:56pm
This is a very hard show to understand. I needed to listen to the cast recording a few times to get the point of the show before I saw it. I honestly think that the reason it's so complicated is why it flopped.
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#43
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:01pm
I disagree. You just have to pay close attention. I hadn't heard the CR before I saw it, though I had seen Lot's Wife on the Tonys, and wished I hadn't. It made the number anticlimactic in context.
Other than that, I loved the show. And the cast.
Other than that, I loved the show. And the cast.
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#44
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:03pm
"I mean, bitch wore a Tiara."
Rath, you are my favorite.
Rath, you are my favorite.
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#45
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:04pm
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#46
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:06pm
How the hell they ever got that tiara and hair under the Caroline wig - screw the Dreamgirls quick changes...
The reason it flopped is tourists don't care about a grumpy old maid. If it were just that simple...
The reason it flopped is tourists don't care about a grumpy old maid. If it were just that simple...
#47
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:07pm
No no, I'm a grumpy old maid.
Caroline is a grumpy maid.
Caroline is a grumpy maid.
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#48
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:08pm
It's very upseting to hear that someone didn't like this amazing masterpiece, but I have to agree that the first time I saw it..I really didn't get it. It was not until the second time and listening to the cd that I learned to understand it and love it. Which made me go to the theater to see it more and more to see the different cast members. To say that Tonya can't sing is going some, this show is vocally demanding but she CAN sing, I just think it might be easier for someone with a higher range. I would say give the show a chance and see it again, this is NOT a tourist show. You have to love theater I THINK...to really understand it...and when you do...you learn that this is a work of art and I have to say one of my top picks for musicals.
#49
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:09pm
No, Rath.
She was 39. In 1963.
She was 39. In 1963.
Updated On: 10/12/06 at 03:09 PM
#50
Posted: 10/12/06 at 3:09pm
Well, it's not ALL about tourists, but it was certainly a show that was not appealing to a lot of out-of-towners.
I think what ultimately led to the show's demise were it's mixed reviews and it's heavy subject matter. It's not an easy show to digest and understand, and it sure as hell isn't a good old time at the theatre. It's a shame that it didn't last.
I think what ultimately led to the show's demise were it's mixed reviews and it's heavy subject matter. It's not an easy show to digest and understand, and it sure as hell isn't a good old time at the theatre. It's a shame that it didn't last.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
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