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#1

I am making a prediction about Brooklyn...

This is what I think is going to happen.

It's going to be a pretty good show, some great songs, and a great cast.

Those lovely 12 year old teenybopper girls will jump on the bandwagon and turn it into another Wicked, Hairspray, and Rent, and will evnetually be ruled by pre teen girls.

For some reason, I definetly see this happening. Coz you know that lovely pre teen crowd sure can turn a show into a very overrated production.

Anybody else think this is going to happen also?
#2

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Yes yes yes.

But I WILL give due props if Brooklyn is any good.

But they've already got an "Eden- former Elphaba" following, it kind of makes me less and less eager to see the show. But of course they'll love her in ANYTHING.

We'll see.
#3

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I don't see how "teeny boppers" can reuin a show...if its a good enough production it will be able to stand alone. Who cares what kind of fans it has...as long as its a good show and entertaining, why should it be bashed for its fans when they have nothing to do with the show, but just giving an audience to it. haha maybe im just getting ahead of myself...but this has to do with wicked too.
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#4

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Maybe it doesn't apply to you- but extreme preteen fangirlism unfortunately makes me look at a show less favorably.

Those types of people have certain things that entertain them. And those things don't entertain me. Hence, I won't be entertained by it if they all like it.
#5

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The only way teeny-boppers can ruin a show is if they put annoying posts on message boards that say "OMG!!! Brooklyn's like, the best play ever!"
#8

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I doubt the fans will ruin the actual show, and for all I know right now Brooklyn could turn out to be fantastic. But if Bklyn becomes the next Wicked thanks to the fans, the fans can certainly ruin my view of the show.

Updated On: 8/19/04 at 07:09 PM

#9

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I agree- I was mostly disappointed in Wicked until I discovered the lengths of teeny-bopper fangirlism it inspired. The more I heard about "OMG! IDINA BLEW HER NOSE!" the more resentful I became, until just the mention of the show made me sour. Now I still don't like the show, but either the big-time hubbub has died down or I'm used to it, because it doesn't inspire fury in me anymore.

As for BKLYN, I have high hopes for it. That first song also makes me suspect it might turn out to be Wicked-ish, however, at least in style. In which case I would be sorely disappointed again. re: I am making a prediction about Brooklyn... We'll see.
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I saw her today getting mobbed at the stage door by a horde of teenage girls before the show. It was really sad...and then another scary idea occurred to me...imagine if all the people waiting for the lottery had noticed she was there? Poor Idina.
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Indeed, the tween's do not know how much of a turn-off their psycho enthusiasm is. And also, what an actual deterrent it is. If Eden Espinoza doesn't have the angels coming down from heaven the first time she opens her mouth to sing, than I'm immediately going to be disappointed. Seriously, you've all built her up in really hard to live up to, proportions. Same with Wicked and Menzel. Where were all of you as Wild Party was failing miserably and all that time in between Rent and Wicked? The only thing certain about being the "it" girl is that "it'll" soon be someone else.

Updated On: 8/19/04 at 07:32 PM

#13

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I think any show is lucky to find itself any fanbase. It's a shame the Wicked crowd is getting a bad rap as obnoxious teenage girls.

I have to agree with Chinkie Azn Jai here.

So a show becomes a hit and attracts more enthusiastic fans than others. It's not the end of the world nor is it a reason to dislike the show soley based on that fact. I think it's sad when people shut down to something because it is suddenly main stream. re: I am making a prediction about Brooklyn... A show is good or bad for reasons that have nothing to do with the fanbase. Unless of course that fanbase disturbs the performance, then it's another story. re: I am making a prediction about Brooklyn...

If BKLYN becomes an enormous smash I would hope that people give it a chance anyway, regaurdless of who it attracts... just my humble oppinion.
If you limit your choices to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise."- Robert Fritz

Updated On: 8/19/04 at 07:37 PM

#14

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I agree that teeny-boppers can attach a certain stigma to a show and make it seem less desirable. I suppose that this can be equated to buying something new for yourself and really liking the item until everyone else buys one as well. It no longer seems as appealing or special. I certainly look at the show a little differently now that "Menzelites" (or whatever the heck the NY Times called them) are so ubiquitous.
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Yeah that's true. The Menzelites (yeah, that's the New York Times term) not only make Wicked an annoying show, but they also give a bad name to Broadway fans my age.
#17

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Do any of you have the NY Times article where that is cited from? I'd be interested in reading it...if not, what was it about?
"I look before I leap I love margins and discipline I make lists in my sleep Baby what's my sin?"- Joanne, Rent
#19

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You're welcome zepka102. Glad to see someone else understands where I am coming from.
If you limit your choices to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise."- Robert Fritz

Updated On: 8/19/04 at 08:21 PM

#21

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oh definitely... it's been bothering me since i joined the boards... no hard feelings against those who hate wicked... or any other certain show, performer, etc.
::bust a move::
#22

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It's just extremely annoying to see pre teen girls post about shows and stuff lol, the annoying ones i mean, coz I am sure there are some here who aren't annoying.

Like on the Kristin Chenoweth board, when I first got there, everyone was so mature, and were true Kristin fans.

But now all the post are


"OMMMG!!!! I SAW KRISTEN IN WIKED N SHE SO AMASING. I CONT BELAVE SHE SANG OPRAH. LIKE SHE SO PRETTIE, OMMMG. I HEARS SHE HAZ A SOLO ALBUM OUT, WHAT R THOSE SONGZ, I NEVA HEARDZ OF THEM".

Seriously, thats what they sound like over there. That just frustrates me too read that. I am a teenage boy, and I find it so annoying with girls my age and younger post like that. ya know?
#23

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i can see your point... but i guess you just have to separate yourself from it... everyone on this board has to. they shouldn't rely on a show's popularity to judge how they feel about it. maybe i'm just being completely oblivious (which is usually the case :P), but i never thought of hairspray in that "teeny bopper group" you put it in. yeah, i know its got a huge following of young teenagers who worship everything about it, but i just ignored it and appreciate the show for what it is. yeah, along the line ive gotten obsessive over shows after i see them, but i think we all go through that phase and we deal with it differently. am i making any sense? probably not. but i guess what i'm trying to say is that we should look at a show as it is and not be influenced by others.
::bust a move::
#24

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I just find it unfortunate that once a musical becomes a popular with the "teeny-boppers," new fans of the show who may have just discovered it and have an honest appreciation of it are almost inevitablly lumped into the same category as the fanatics.

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