Jamie Foxx and Usher Join Dreamgirls Film — Page 6

Jesse Powell would have killed C.C.
YES!!!!!!
im listening to "You"

that b!t@hes overbite is bigger then my tits

Updated On: 5/23/05 at 04:18 PM

Kavana, Fantasia has an underbite.


As far as her "look" goes...I think Fantasia could pull it off. You'd be surprised what make-up/clothes/lighting can do. Fantasia will probably need to get in the gym and tone up a bit, but I think she's passable. Lorell's look is not as important as Deena's or Effie's. Whoever plays Lorell has to have that fiesty nature about her and I think Fantasia can exude that and come off as more attractive than she really is. Looking at her, she looks regular but once homegirl sings you get drawn in.

Mya's good. She fits perfectly. Good back-up singer. Pretty. Kinda just there.

I think there will be good singing and bad acting. I agee with you GhettoBway. I would like someone like spike lee to do this film. I think he would at leat be able to find some african american actors who have the skills and requirements and not just put rappers and pop singers in the film. And Jamie Foxx cannot sing and he has only done 2 good films.

If Usher is in it I won't see it. I can deal with the rest of them. Not that dude.

Yeah, it's wrong. I'm objective and understand the business side of this whole project. I've suggested/promoted those who have the best mix of marketability and talent.

We won't even talk about your Shola Ama as Effie fetish. That would blow up your spot foreal!

And you know that's not true about Lyndsay Lohan. I don't want her in Bye Bye Birdie because she can't sing at all.

I didn't say I was a fan of Jamie's I said he was sufficient.

And you're not gonna get chills from this movie unless you're sitting in a cold theater. The feeling isn't going to be nearly the same as viewing a live performance.

Dear God GhettoBway who would you like to see casted in the movie.This is reminscent of when Diana Ross was chosen to play Billie Holliday in Lady Sings The Blues.Before she stepped foot on the set everyone said she couldn't do it and the movie would be a flop. An Oscar nomination and legendery status achieved later and the critcs were silenced. I trully belive that Beyonce will pull the role of Deena off. Dreamgirls is hard to cast anyone becuse you can't have some who can act with medicore sinig skills becuase it's very short of being an opera. Anyone who is casted in Dreamgirls is really going to have to know how to sing first and foremost. Also they will have to know who to really act because so much of the character's emotions is displayed through their sinong voice. Secondly Jamie Fox can't sing ? I beg to differ because you obviously did not see his performance at this years Grammy's awards. The brother can sing and his acting is good also. All I'm saying is give Beyonce and Jamie try. There talented people who I think will do fine this film.

I am having a problem with the casting.
Am i the only person who sees that its going by who is hot?
This is going to be a bad BET movie.
The way its going seems like its being made just to be made.

They are picking the best people possible for this film. This isn't going to come off as a bad BET movie. Dreamworks/David Geffen and Bill Condon have way too much invested and too much love for the show to see it come to that. They would sooner not make it into a film than ruin it all together.

I would like everyone to listen to Jamie Foxxs' first album,
His nasally voice, Is that a Curtis you would like to hear?

If people really liked his singing the album would have been a hit and he would have released more albums after that 94 flop.
Am i right???

That album came out, what, 11 years ago? Alot can happen in 11 years. I've heard the man sing live, he's good, he can carry a tune and I'm sure he will get some needed vocal training for his role. This isn't an opera..it's a musical.

Fcuk the film Ray the man passed and the movie was blown up people were sad THATS why Jamie won that Oscar.

Jamie won the Oscar because he gave a stellar performance. NOT because Ray Charles died and NOT because "people were sad" as you put it. To think otherwise is ridiculous.


Beyonce - 4 films under her belt, 5 if you dont count the very 1st film which was made back when Destiny's Child first came out.
When does one learn "hey, maybe im not a great actress"???
And in all these films she has played a lead.
WHAT???? HOW????
She acts like the people that are in those chitlin circuit shows,
I dont have to wait to see DG or Pink panther to know this girl cant act.

She's no Meryl Streep, but she isn't as bad as most people want to make her out to be. I've seen worse. This just may be the role that will finally give her the opportunity to shine and with Condon as her guide that's just what might happen.

I'm sure Usher can hold his own seeing how he does not have any solo songs.

Usher is a solid, talented performer period. Solo song or not.

Bill Condon, WHO is he???
I could not stand to watch Brendan Fraser in anything so i didnt see Gods and monsters and have no interest in seeing Kinsey.
I really question what his motives are for this film and who he is preforming fellatio to, to have this film made.
i cannot speak for every black person but the ones i have dont care to see Chicago and this man doesnt have any film history with directing and writing for blacks.

You have GOT to be kidding me if you don't know who Bill Condon is. Bill Condon has to be one of the most respected writer/directors out there today. He was responsible for the brilliant adaptation of "Chicago" for the screen.

You are wrong about Condon. Bill Condon is a huge fan of this show! He was there opening night when Jennifer Holliday tore the roof off the Imperial Theatre and became an overnight sensation.

For you to sum up "Dreamgirls" as merely some "black show" is extremely ignorant. The characters in "Dreamgirls" are black, but the themes in the show are universal.

Just for the record almost all the creators and writers who were responsible for "Dreamgirls" are WHITE!

David Geffen, producer: WHITE!

Henry Krieger, composer: WHITE!

Tom Eyen, lyricist and book writer: WHITE!

Michael Bennett, director and choreographer: WHITE!


NO YOU DONT HAVE TO but it would not hurt...it seems he is going by ear of what happened to the Supreme's, basically he is making the Motown movie and im sure there is going to be some drama when it comes out.

Show me where you come to that conclusion, I have neither seen nor read anything that supports your "claims".

And for the record aspects of Motown and The Supremes may lace the show but so do aspects of Little Richard, Etta James, James Brown, etc..the only person noted to have a real problem with the show when it premiered was Diana Ross and she nor Motown ever sued. What makes you think they will now? They really have no case.

What happened in 98 with Joel Schumacher this man was ready to film had his cast ready and no one questioned it.
Lauryn Hill - Deena
Kelly Price - Effie
Stacy Francies - Lorrell
Don Cheadle - Jimmy

On what universe?? The only two names from the list you posted that were ever mentioned for "Dreamgirls" prior to now were Schumacher and Hill.

I was living in Harlem at the time and saw how it was transformed to the sixties it was the coolest thing, I never saw filming and one day it was gone.

What went wrong and whats so different about then and now?
WB stopped production on it because "why do fools fall in love" failed. Saying who wants to see a film about three black girls strulling to make it.

Joel did Sparkle and had people that were in DG on broadway after the film.
Black people who remember the film love this film it was Dreamgirls, So we know his work.

Yes "Dreamgirls" was shelved by Warner Bros. in 1998 because of the poor box office performance of another musical bio-pic, "Why Do Fools Fall in Love". But you know what? Things happen for a reason.

So what he wrote "Sparkle"? The only thing that "Sparkle" and "Dreamgirls" have in common is that there both about a trio of black girl singers. After that the similarity ends.

After what Schumacher did to "Phantom of the Opera" I'm glad he is out of the picture. Oh and by the way Joel Schumacher is WHITE also!

Debra Zane & Bill Condon are looking for who is hot...I can guarantee they care about this film, its all about bringing in the money.

The people that have been named so far for this movie are NOT only recognizable names but also proven singers, and talented ones at that.

If they would have cast for name only giving little regard to actually singing talent then I would say you had an argument.

You don't.

Im still hoping someone (Motown) stops this film from being made because of all the similarities, He is not fooling anyone.. True to the musical...Now your messing with real peoples lives.

Motown has NOTHING to do with this at all and they CAN'T SUE. "Dreamgirls" may bear more a resemblance to The Supremes, but how many black girl groups in the sixties were there that faced similar problems of crossing over to the pop charts or changed group members or focused on just one specific member of the group?....MANY. And it's still happening today!

If you think that "Dreamgirls" is just some thinly veiled pseudo-bio of The Supremes and leave it to just that then you are missing the message of this show.

The show tackles issue of race, society and overcoming obstacles and adversity while trying to acheive the almighty "American Dream". The struggle lies within each character as they go up the ladder of success but along the way each loses a piece of themeselves because they compromise so much just to get there including family.

The group and music are basically a microcosm for the struggles any group or race of people face when they want to acheive success in much the same way the dancers in "A Chorus Line" are a microcosm of society and their struggles.

To chalk up "Dreamgirls" as just being about The Supremes and it just being a "black show" is just wrong.

Updated On: 5/24/05 at 05:41 AM

Stupid Usher? The man has a fantastic voice. Plus, he's been cast as the choreographer for the group. Usher is a dancer, and an awesome one at that. Would you like to tell me what black actor in Hollywood is more fitting for the role of "black choreographer?" How about James Earl Jones? Or better yet - what about Denzel Washington? Everyone in Hollywood knows of his supreme vocal and dancing skills. Oh, and the best idea yet - are you sitting down? Here we go...I think Morgan Freeman would be PERFECT!

See, I love discrediting ridiculous comments that have no basis for anything!

The 98 film i clearly remember, There was one interview where Stacy Francies talked about being upset that she was not doing the film.

Go find the cast list, Im not making any of this up.
You can say you have not heard or dont remember but dont say I am wrong because i do.
Im young but I know my DG history.

Bill Condons has done a handful of films, Chicago was not the best movie-musical and im not going to praise him just because hollywood went crazy over the movie.

I know the races of creators not that it mattered, you bringing up the fact that they are white proves what?

I said it would be nice if Bill Condon had history with writing for blacks.
Can you direct me to a novel that he has wrote that can prove me wrong?

Bill Condon is the go-to guy, when someone doesnt like the way a upcoming film is going this man comes from out the shadows.

In 97 or 98 Chicago was to be made with Madonna & Goldie Hawn,
What happened?

My bringing up Motown goes to the character breakdown with the charector Teddy Campbell and that the Dreams are from Detriot, Curtis has a record label Rainbow records.

I dont know if Diana wanted to sue but she was angry, Mary wanted to be compensated for them obviously using their story.

And Yes i can say Dreamgirls is a "Black Show" which i havent,
Is it not?

We will just have to wait and see.

I'd much rather see Marques Houston as C.C. than Usher. I think he'd be at lot better in the role.

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I don't know about Marques Houston...


Ron, as far as why Condon is unlikely to cast an unknown Lorell...it basically throws the symetry off. You have a known Beyonce and two unknowns as the other 2 Dreams, making Beyonce the focus. It makes more sense to have a known Lorell so Effie (the new find) will be the center of attention

Updated On: 5/24/05 at 04:45 PM