John Cullum to Play H.C. Curry in Roundabout's 110 in the Shade — Page 2
#27
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:33pm
God, I can't believe this is even an issue. If you can't believe them as father and daughter don't go. Miss what might be an enthralling night of theatre because you can't get past the race issue. Stay home and watch reruns of Eight Is Enough, for crying out loud.
PEACE.
#28
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:39pm
The following is not meant as a racist comment at all...just curious: Will Audra's understudy be black or white? (hopefully she won't miss any performances though)
#29
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:43pm
What difference does it make? Obviously it will be the best person for the role regardless of race. Jeesh.
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#30
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:44pm
Like I said, it was not meant as a racist comment and I did not mean to offend anyone by the question. I was just curious.
#31
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:47pm
But the fact that it is important enough to ask is odd. I know you didn't mean to sound racist, but really, what does it MATTER?
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#32
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:49pm
I think B.D. Wong should play Snookie. i mean, he's really, really talented. If he's the best person for the role, why should it matter that he's the wrong gender?
#33
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:52pm
What matters is that he's better than he was in that SHENANDOAH revival.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#34
Posted: 11/29/06 at 2:56pm
Sueleen Gay you're going to extremes now. To say that race doesn't matter at all is just not realitic. It's like having a blonde Mary Poppins. People simply woudln't like it. Outward appearance matters. Would you cast a 250 lb woman as Glinda, most likely not. It's the same principle. You can't IGNORE someone's features. In color-blind casting you accept them but they are part of what makes an actor who he or she is.
#35
Posted: 11/29/06 at 3:31pm
Personally, I think a 250lb Glinda would be great. I am not saying that color blind casting would work for every show ( I can't really picture a black actor playing Master Harold, for instance) But we are talking about a silly little romantic tale that has nothing whatsoever to do with race. We will just have to agree to disagree with this. Again, if you have a problem with it, stay away. There are plenty of "color appropriate" shows for you to see so you don't get too distracted by how people look.
PEACE.
#36
Posted: 11/29/06 at 3:38pm
Regardless of the races of the actors,, this show will be incredible and I will definitely post my thoughts after the first preview on April 13th...I already have my ticket!
#37
Posted: 11/29/06 at 3:47pm
Actually Sue I'm going to the show because of Audra. And the race of the actor has less to do with "not being able to deal" with a color blind casting and more to deal with roles. For me there are too many actors walking around wishing they would get cast as other things besides slaves and screamers. For me It was about a black family dealing with issues that weren't slavery and poverty. For me it was another set of roles black or hispanic actors could play that weren't typically played by black actors. It's about the number of jobs open and available not about not being able to deal. So don't get on a soapbox and elevate yourself because of your so called enlightennment until you understand where I'm really coming from.
#38
Posted: 11/29/06 at 3:50pm
I have more of a problem w/ the fact that Lizzie is supposed to be plain and unattractive and Audra ain't that. Are they gonna ugly her up?
I'm tired of purty gals taking all the good roles written for us plain janes.
I'm tired of purty gals taking all the good roles written for us plain janes.
I'd fire you... if you weren't so g*dd*mn beautiful out there. - Blades of Glory
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#39
Posted: 11/29/06 at 3:54pm
Sorry, Jazzy, I didn't catch where you were coming from. Of COURSE EVERY role in this show could be played by an African-American actor. I thought you had a problem with the mixed race casting for believability sake. I got you now. And agree!
PEACE.
#40
Posted: 11/29/06 at 5:31pm
I think the issue here is that the meaning of the story changes based on the family being all white or all black because of the time period the musical is set in. Having a mixed family is historically inaccurate in that it would be a larger issue in the era of the play and/or it would not exist along biologically lines.
Most people who love August Wilson will recall that he was very against colorblind casting precisely for this reason. Sometimes it's distracting for the audience to have to accept a black person, a white person, an Asian person, and a person of mixed race as being from the same biological family. It is a great barrier to the most important thing, the story.
That said, I am very much looking forward to this revival. It's going to be exciting.
Most people who love August Wilson will recall that he was very against colorblind casting precisely for this reason. Sometimes it's distracting for the audience to have to accept a black person, a white person, an Asian person, and a person of mixed race as being from the same biological family. It is a great barrier to the most important thing, the story.
That said, I am very much looking forward to this revival. It's going to be exciting.
#41
Posted: 11/29/06 at 6:18pm
As I see it, they aren't going for making "biological sense." I hope they don't try to justify the white father black daughter issue.
I hope they play the show as normal, and make no comment about race.
Race isn't THAT important (unless specifically noted), and especially in a show like 110 in the Shade.
I hope they play the show as normal, and make no comment about race.
Race isn't THAT important (unless specifically noted), and especially in a show like 110 in the Shade.
Personally, I think I have too much bloom.
#42
Posted: 11/29/06 at 7:01pm
110 with a FULLY integrated cast would be nice -- there wouldn't have to be any biology questions because if done that way, it's just not an issue. I mean, a white HC, a black Lizzie, maybe a Latina or Asian Snookie? An ensemble that looks like a Benneton ad? Why not?
If you're gonna color-blind cast, you can't restrict it to two cast members whose characters are brother and sister. Go further, and ensure race is a non-issue.
If you're gonna color-blind cast, you can't restrict it to two cast members whose characters are brother and sister. Go further, and ensure race is a non-issue.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#43
Posted: 11/29/06 at 10:50pm
This is so exciting! Cullum will be great!
#44
Posted: 11/30/06 at 2:43am
Too bad H.C. doesn't have much to sing.
Faced with these Loreleis, what man can moralize!
#45
Posted: 11/30/06 at 8:33am
I NEVER said races shouldn't mix on stage. I said it's odd and distracting to have MEMBERS OF THE SAME FAMILY be different races.
Hell - I was musical direcgor of a production of 110 IN THE SHADE that had an African-American Starbuck, with the rest of the cast white. It made sense - he was an outsider - he was exotic. It added to the "forbidden" aspect of his relationship with Lizzie. It didn't distract or confuse the audience.
Hell - I was musical direcgor of a production of 110 IN THE SHADE that had an African-American Starbuck, with the rest of the cast white. It made sense - he was an outsider - he was exotic. It added to the "forbidden" aspect of his relationship with Lizzie. It didn't distract or confuse the audience.
#46
Posted: 11/30/06 at 2:19pm
Can we still not use our imaginations to suspend our disbelief for two hours?
I'm not saying that race isn't important, because sometimes it is essential, and/or poignant to cast racially specefic, but most other times, it's just color.
I'm not saying that race isn't important, because sometimes it is essential, and/or poignant to cast racially specefic, but most other times, it's just color.
Personally, I think I have too much bloom.
#47
Posted: 12/2/06 at 2:33pm
I really don't see why this is a big deal at all. I'm totally for the colorblind casting. As long as race doesn't isn't central to the plot, do what you may. We all deserve a equal chance to play great roles.
And actually, I think colorblindly casting a family works better for some shows. I've always thought the racially mixed family in Brandy's "Cinderella" movie was a fantastic idea. It just adds to the fantasy. And when you deal with shows that have an element of fantasy to them (Like "Carousel" and it's dream ballet, and "110 in the Shade" for that matter) it really can work supremely well.
And actually, I think colorblindly casting a family works better for some shows. I've always thought the racially mixed family in Brandy's "Cinderella" movie was a fantastic idea. It just adds to the fantasy. And when you deal with shows that have an element of fantasy to them (Like "Carousel" and it's dream ballet, and "110 in the Shade" for that matter) it really can work supremely well.
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