Latest Brooklyn! Review- Page 2

[robbiej]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 1:08pm

But NStar, it's not really a mistake.

People don't consider being a standby as a Broadway debut. Frankly, I don't understand it. But that's the way it is in the biz.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 1:13pm

Count me among the clueless...I wasn't aware of your pedigree, either.

That being said:

"I think it's stupid to be honest" Wow. Now there's a statement I'd want to put into writing... Really, WHAT point were you out to make here?

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 1:14pm

It's not a mistake. Most people consider an actor's Broadway debut to be when they officially assume a role, not when they acted as understudy or standby. The Theatre World Awards which have recognized the ten most prominent debuts of the New York season for several decades now only recognize those actors who appear in principal or featured roles the opening night playbill (no replacements, understudies, standbys or chorus people). There are several recipients of the Theatre World Award who had worked on Broadway for a several years as understudies etc... before they finally got their big break and only then were honored as having made an outsanding "debut."

[Chloe]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 1:32pm

iflitifloat, I'm pretty sure Amneris was actually saying "I think it's stupid, to be honest."

[uncageg]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 2:08pm

No matter what the reviews on this show. I enjoyed it. Is that a crime?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 2:23pm

I've loved Amneris since the day on the old board she wrote that she doesn't even care if a show is good anymore, just so long as every actor gets a chance to be on Broadway. It was just such a great sentiment, I was smitten from that moment on.

[robbiej]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 2:55pm

I was WONDERING how long it would take for Namo to show up!

Welcome back to the world of the living, old friend!

[sean martin]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 2:59pm

>> No matter what the reviews on this show. I enjoyed it. Is that a crime?

Yes. The BWW.com police will be by this afternoon to retrieve your membership card. Dont try to leave town.

[wickedfan2]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 3:28pm

Just thought I'd mention that Amneris is a classy, thoughtful, intelligent human being that I had the pleasure of meeting on day one of Bklyn's previews.

[lovettespies]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 3:38pm

Thanks for the info, yet again Margo. It was an interesting review, but it wasn't extremely valid. I certainly wouldn't use the atricle to decide if I was going to see it or not, I've made my mind up about that a long time ago. The entire Playbillbios thing was just meant to make a point, but he took it too far. Oh well, it's still fun to read.

And Amneris, I didn't knwo about your parents either. you might be right, it might be healthy for you sanity to avoid Brookly threads, since I don't think you're going to change people's minds.

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 3:56pm

I thought the review was brilliant and funny. I get pretty worn out whenever I watch the Grammy's and have to be inundated with thank you's to the almighty in some form or fashion every time someone gets up to the podium. As if God has nothing better to do than watch award ceremonies and read the BKLYN bio. It was, (perhaps), a slam in that sense, trying to point out the hackneyed tone of everything, *down to* the bio's. I have to take up for Amneris as I do recall her outing herself as a BKLYN shill long ago. Actually, she's been the LEAST annoying/frightening/egregious one of them all!

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 3:58pm

Btw, nobody knows who Eden espinosa is outside of the BWW, so no, he was not mistaken by calling this her B'way debut. 99% of the population does NOT care who understudied the "green one in that show about the Witches".

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 4:13pm

It's funny because it's true...

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 4:21pm

The truth is almost always funnier than the nonsensical ways people try and sugar coat everything. That's just desperate. Unfortunately, I've not seen the show...yet.

[Gypsy2]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 5:19pm

I think it's really pathetic that this reviewer felt like they have to go on to bashing people's playbill bios. BKLYN is a musical, not a playbill bio, so just go your damn job and review the show. That was out of line.

And I agree about Amneris being wonderful, cause she is. :) Puffer.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 6:06pm

First of all, I need to thank God for the incredible gift of my writing abilities. Word up, Big Guy or Gal. Second of all, if you put it out there for public consumption, it is completely fair game for criticism, bio blurbs included. Not out of line.

*blesses self, points to ceiling*

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 6:40pm

Is it any wonder why I love Namo as much as I do? Updated On: 10/27/04 at 06:40 PM

[robbiej]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 6:44pm

reminds me of a favorite Christopher Durang line:

"I watch the Tonys. And I remember when all those people won for DREAMGIRLS and they got up there thanking God for letting them win, and I said to myself, 'God is silent on the Holocaust, but he involves Himself in the Tonys.' IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKELY!"

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 6:49pm

According to Reidel's column today ( believe it or not ) Brooklyn has enough money to run about another 3 weeks.

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 6:49pm

Brilliant. Yes, it seems "God" spends an awful lot of his time watching award ceremonies and saves all his reading time, for Bio's. BKLYN is NOT the first show to have bio's like that and it won't be the last.

[spence]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 7:24pm

Reidel's comment about Brooklyn running for three weeks is totally untrue and irresponsible journalism.The show has no plan to close despite the reviews. As I have said before, the overwhelming audience response has been VERY positive. Standing ovation each time I have seen the show.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/27/04 at 7:25pm

The Civil War had standing ovations & folded. Time will tell

[Al Dente]

Posted: 10/28/04 at 9:33am

There's absolutely no accounting for taste. People now feel obliged to stand at the end of almost any musical and more times than not, it is far from warranted.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 10/28/04 at 9:36am

how sad but true Al. Fortunately, I was treated to quite the suprise at my last viewing of Chicago. I fully expected the obligatory standing O, but not a soul in that building stood at any point during curtain call.

[sean martin]

Posted: 10/28/04 at 11:25am

Ah, for the audiences in Europe. There was a new production of a Mozart opera at the Berlin Oper that started getting serious catcalls and boos about two-third of the way through the first act, and, from what the review said, it was no doubt merited. Another production a couple of years ago of that New Year's Eve staple THE BAT was apparently so incomprehensibly bad (Act Three, which is usually set in a jail where the errant husband is sleeping off a drunkfest, was moved to a concentration camp, complete with Nazi guards) that the director and conductor had to leave by a side exit lest they face the wrath of the audience.

We need audiences like that here, the kind that will throw programmes at the director when he takes his bow. Lord knows I was tempted to when LA MANCHA was over. :)