Broadway Star Joined: 1/6/05
Is he himself writing this musical? Because then... oh god, WHY????
Yeah and I agree, what the hell has he done that's so special? He helped write this years big flop, who cares!
Okay my rant is over.....
Understudy Joined: 3/16/05
oh my god thats fantastic!!! Maybe this show will do better then BKLYN . But this is great that Mark will be on Bway!! wooh hoo! haha!
Master, I wasn't trying to get you to change your description I was just wondering why you were so angry and so vicious.
Then again maybe I shouldn't really care.
I just don't understand the downright nastiness in tthe posts.
i'm surprised he's doing this. good for him i guess? let's hope so for his sake.
If somebody is willing to invest in this project, more power to him.
You want secrets of Success On and Off Broadway? Mr. Schoenfeld needs to step off of his juice box! He is a pre-schooler compared to the ultimate master of such a life! If Stephen Sondheim doesn't have an autobiographical show then Mr. Schoenfeld should not. I would much rather watch Sondheims life than any other composer!
Leading Actor Joined: 5/11/05
ZONEACE and Thenardier, you really both demonstrate such incredible maturity...it's very inspiring to us "12 year olds". I can only wish that one day I will have half the knowledge you have and become such a happy person as both of you are well.
I, for one, think that Mark Schoenfeld's life may be a more interesting fairy tale than BKLYN (not to denigrate BKLYN, a show that I really did enjoy). Schoenfeld is a formerly homeless man who's writing and music was produced on Broadway. That fact alone is astounding, even if you don't appreciate his work. But in addition, some of the new show's song titles sound hilarious. He's such a nice man, besides. I really can't wait to see it.
I've said it before, and it's worth repeating until it sinks in. Those of you who come on these boards which discuss BKLYN the Musical-related subjects with the purpose of denigrating all things BKLYN certainly have that right. However, when you go beyond saying you aren't interested or that you disliked the show (which you've made imminently clear ad nauseum in previous posts), and continue by using venomous hyperbole to personally attack the show, the writers, the cast, and especially BKLYN fans, you reveal your deeply embittered spirits. It's unnecessary and frankly, disturbing. You didn't like BKLYN? Got it. Let it go. You never have to think about it again. Why do you persist, then, in your attacks, especially the personal ones? If BKLYN fans are irrelevant 12 year olds with dubious taste and no appreciation of the finer things Broadway has to offer, then why not just ignore us? Us "12 year olds" advise you to seek help immediately.
If somebody is willing to invest in this project, more power to him.
To all of you saying that we are bashing this man, I am not bashing him or his life or his story. I am bashing the fact that anyone would think this is a good idea. Maybe it WILL be great. I doubt it. Maybe I am wrong. I doubt it. You see, there is something called common sense and if you don't have that you really should not be a producer. Period. Call me negative, I call it realistic. So to all of you I just ask you this question..."WOULD YOU INVEST YOUR MONEY IN THIS SHOW?"
Also, on a different subject, will this man be offering free tickets to all the homeless in New York so that they may be inspired by his story? It seems that if you want to inspire people with this, they would be the ones you would want in your audience, no?
Actually, Sueleen, when BKLYN was running they did have a benefit night for homeless families. It isn't unprecendented that they might do the same for this show. And it is an inspiring story, you're right!
Good for them, I did not know that. Did they give them a hoodie and a free CD?
Leading Actor Joined: 5/11/05
Starchild, reading your posts is always a pleasure. :)
Actually, Starchild, I never once posted about BKLYN after I saw it. And yes, I loathed it. The costumes WERE inventive, however.
But the arrogance and hubris of its producer's ego-driven navel-gazing "project" are so misguided that one would think that even a sensible BKLYN fan (of whatever age) might see though it and realize that it is a deeply bad idea.
Or are all BKLYN fans sheep?
Leading Actor Joined: 5/11/05
MasterLcz, maybe you don't do that, but there are countless people on this board who think, for reasons I'm unsure of, that their repetitive negative comments about bklyn are funny.
Leave the man alone, he's a nice guy. Like I said before, if you don't like the idea, don't go see the show. No need to bash it. Not difficult.
Nobody has answered my question yet?
Do YOU think this is a good investment?
Had he written BKLYN as his own story, rather than the fairy tale, it may have faired a bit better. The fairy tale convoluted the story and the emotions.
It seems that BKLYN is his stroy, and when it failed, he thought he'd have another go.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/03
I know nothing of Schoenfeld but I'm intridged in the whole use of the word "homeless" in a rags to Broadway scenerio.
Why was he homeless? Does he have a physical, mental, or dependancy problem to overcome? Or was he just an artist who didn't want to pay no rent? I mean, unless there was actually something to "overcome" other than a desire to not dig ditches, wait tables, or wash dishes for a living, what would hold my interest? What would be inspiring?
"Do YOU think this is a good investment?"
The market will tell us if this is a good investment or not. I personally wouldn't invest in this production. However, I also thought that Bombay Dream was going to be a big hit.
re: MasterLcZ - "...But the arrogance and hubris of its producer's ego-driven navel-gazing "project" are so misguided that one would think that even a sensible BKLYN fan (of whatever age) might see though it and realize that it is a deeply bad idea."
Or are all BKLYN fans sheep?"
----Well, Master, if you didn't before, you just did now. Oops. Being a sheep and not sharing your opinion aren't necessarily the same thing, while we're on the subject of arrogance. However, to answer the rest of your post, it's not clear which project you mean from your post, the bio-musical or BKLYN itself, which is ego-driven, etc etc. I don't know enough about the new project to opine, other than to say that it could be a very interesting subject, regardless of the final results of BKLYN's overall run (it is touring next year). Are you suggesting that the bio-musical is a bad idea simply because BKLYN wasn't a critical or financial success in it's Bway run?
Re: SueleenGay: "Do YOU think it's a good investment?"
---Supporting the arts (however you care to define that) isn't always about making money, so alot depends upon what one's definition is of "good investment." Hypothetically speaking, would bringing an important work of art that is a financial failure to the stage a good investment if it touches the people who see it or somehow educates or inspires (I'm not suggesting ANYTHING about the Schoenfeld show (I don't know enough about it), I'm just speaking hypothetically and exploring the meaning of "good investment")? Do I think that this particular show could be a good investment financially? Possibly, why not? The story is potentially a very interesting one. If it is well done, it could be very entertaining.
Etoile: "why was he homeless?"
---Guess you'll have to go see the play to find out. But many people are employed and still homeless, particularly those who work minimum wage jobs.
THANKS Sarah, you're always an eloquent poster yourself!
I am not suggesting that Art is about making money. But the last time I checked Broadway is. But even if you don't expect to get your return back, does this sound like a good enough idea, the way it is described now, for you to invest money into producing so that it may touch someone's heart? Apply for a grant and do it in the park for free! Do it in Times Square! If it's not for profit wouldn't you reach more people that way?
I thought OFF-Bway WAS not for profit!
Scroll down this list of titles and tell me most of them are not there to make money. ORGASMS? ALTER BOYS? FORBIDDEN BROADWAY? BLUE MAN GROUP?
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That comment was tongue in cheek, Sueleen. "Lighten up, Frances." It's not going to be your money that gets lost, anyway. Right?
Darn tootin, bout that. I won't even lose my money at the box-office.
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