Lin-Manuel Kicks Butt — Page 2

>The echo-chamber of NY theater is not only disheartening, it's frustrating and sad and makes me have to work that much harder to stay interested and connected to something I love.<

Echo chamber? Funny, I would say LMM's reaction here is called being an empathetic human being, caring about fellow Americans in desperate need... and not just the ones who can line my pockets. So if this reaction makes you so frustrated and sad, I'd say find another interest.

Please read Lin's plea for help here: Hollywood Reporter Guest Column.

musikman said: "Smaxie covered everything I wanted to say except for one:

if someone is pleading and begging for help due to the dire situation of their home land andtheir constituents'lives, the last thing you do is taunt, ridicule and attack them. It's not only counterproductive, it lacks all sense of basic human decency, something we know that Trump lacks in spades."

This. What are teaching the future of our country? "Oh, those people aren't begging enough...RIDICULE THEM!"

It's disgusting. What LMM was harsh and true.

Not a trump fan, but these sort of comments by LMM and other celebrities are part of the reason why he won the election, and if they don't dial back their attacks (while still making their differences clear), he will win again.

Itonlytakesajourney said: "Why arethere so many rascist Nazi Trump supporters on this board? Last time I checked, Broadway is a place filled with people and things MAGA hat wearers hate."

Is that your definition of liberal, inclusiveness? Do you personally know the intimate beliefs and thoughts of every person who voted for Trump? Of course you don’t, so in order to compensate, for your own intellectual limitations, and your anger, you preemptively label anyone who disagrees with you as a Nazi and a racist. I’m not a Trump supporter, but fair is fair.

If there isn’t room for all theatre lovers in this board, regardless of their political convictions, then there’s no room for anyone. Stop peddling hatred and slander; it makes you look perilously close to the very person you despise.

Updated On: 10/1/17 at 12:40 PM

Smaxie: it's interesting you bring up McCarthy (and by proxy Edward R Murrow). I was just thinking the other day how so many people are crying foul of journalists today who are "critical" of the president or "not letting him do his job." It's their civic duty to call out any leader who proselytizes far beyond normal partisan bickering, precisely what Murrow did and what many journalists are trying to do now



123musicalfan: would you prefer that they stay silent or say nothing? Complacency is just as bad as committing the actual act If you need any evidence of why celebrities who have a platform SHOULD speak out, I raise you Jimmy Kimmel's fight against the disastrous Graham-Cassidy bill.

123musicalfan said: "Not atrump fan, but these sort of comments by LMM and other celebrities are part of the reason why he won the election, and if they don't dial back their attacks(while still making their differences clear), he will win again."

Not sure how this at all makes sense. Do you really think the average Trump voter approves of his conduct on Twitter in relation to millions of Americans being at risk? What reason for Trump getting elected would mean his lack of leadership on this issue is a plus for him in a reelection bid? What kind of people would entrench themselves in their support of Trump over this in particular?

I'm just baffled here. There is no leadership or dignity coming from the president. The 16 officially reported deaths are just the beginning, and he's arguing over Twitter with people active on the ground trying to help while he's away for a weekend of golfing. You can't exaggerate how depressing it is that he is POTUS, or how demoralizing it is to the people that need help most that this is how the president responds in their time of need. LMM is righteous in his anger. Good for him and all the people bringing attention to this disaster.

JIMG3 said: "Itonlytakesajourney said: "Why arethere so many rascist Nazi Trump supporters on this board? Last time I checked, Broadway is a place filled with people and things MAGA hat wearers hate."

Is that your definition of liberal, inclusiveness? Do you personally know the intimate beliefs and thoughts of every person who voted for Trump? Of course you don’t, so in order to compensate, for your own intellectual limitations, and your anger, you preemptively label anyone who disagrees with you as a Nazi and a racist. I’m not a Trump supporter, but fair is fair.

If there isn’t room for all theatre lovers in this board, regardless of their political convictions, then there’s no room for anyone. Stop peddling hatred and slander; it makes you look perilously close to the very person you despise."

Um... not every person who voted for Trump is a racist, but voting for him implies that you accept and even condone- shocking!- his behavior. Should I remind you that Trump has actively mocked disabled people, women, poc, and everyone who is not white, Christian, and a man? How are you going to say fair is fair when Trump and his ideals are anything but fair? A Nazi describes someone who does not tolerate diversity. Same goes for racists, although less extreme. So yes, this is liberal inclusiveness. Why should I support and be kind to people who voted for a man who condones people who want me dead? This "let's play fair!" mentality gets no one anywhere, because by enabling that, we are putting racists and sexist in a powerful position.

Itonlytakesajourney said: "JIMG3 said: "Itonlytakesajourney said: "Why arethere so many rascist Nazi Trump supporters on this board? Last time I checked, Broadway is a place filled with people and things MAGA hat wearers hate."

Is that your definition of liberal, inclusiveness? Do you personally know the intimate beliefs and thoughts of every person who voted for Trump? Of course you don’t, so in order to compensate, for your own intellectual limitations, and your anger, you preemptively label anyone who disagrees with you as a Nazi and a racist. I’m not a Trump supporter, but fair is fair.

If there isn’t room for all theatre lovers in this board, regardless of their political convictions, then there’s no room for anyone. Stop peddling hatred and slander; it makes you look perilously close to the very person you despise."

Um... not every person who voted for Trump is a racist, but voting for him implies that you accept and even condone- shocking!- his behavior. Should I remind you that Trump has actively mocked disabledpeople, women, poc, and everyone who is not white, Christian, and a man? How are you going to say fairis fair when Trump and his ideals are anything but fair? A Nazi describes someone who does not tolerate diversity. Same goes for racists, althoughless extreme. So yes, this is liberal inclusiveness. Why should I support and be kind to people who voted for a man whocondones people who want me dead? This "let's play fair!" mentality gets no one anywhere, because by enabling that, we are putting racists and sexist in a powerful position."

I’ve said what I felt needed to be said. Live your life the way you see fit; just let go of the expectation that everyone has to agree with you. It makes for a more attractive, personality.

Quite frankly, my principal concern at the moment, is helping the victims in Puerto Rico in any way possible; not engaging with a professional victim on a theatre site.

Updated On: 10/1/17 at 01:45 PM

the fact that there are trump apologists on this board of all places disgusts me. wtf y’all

I love LMM. He is so smart, along with so so talented. One small small example of how smart he is (unlike other bway celebs who have had threads criticizing their twitter rants) is that LMM has always always taken the high road. He has never gone down to the gutter with anyone on social media. Very intentionally. He purposely steered clear.

So I, for one, was super disappointed in a way that he lost his temper / or alternatively has so had it with this man, our President. I guess there's just so much anyone can take, and for LMM I get it, this is more personal to him. He must know the mayor, and his own extended family, friends, neighbors are all suffering, affected. It just shows something is so wrong when even LMM loses it. Policies aside, politics aside: I don't understand how any American can favor such a bullying, divisive, negative, lying person as the symbol of our country, our head of state. Even if you like him or agree wtih whatever policies he purports to pursue, you can't deny he is the most bullying, divisive, negative, liar of a president we have seen in our lifetime. LMM losing his cool just underscores it.

I have consistently noticed LMM's class, kindness, and high-road-taking. He is consistently one of the most positive and enthusiastic celebrities out there, and I've never heard him disparage anyone. He is always acutely aware of the trials and tribulations going on in our country (see: his incredible Tonys speech after Pulse) and is constantly using his platform for good (see: the fact that his Twitter has been plugging charities for upwards of a month). This, I believe, makes the tweets in question all the more impactful. If Lin-Manuel has been pushed to say what he said, something is most definitely wrong. (Not that that's the only indicator, of course.)

Sorry to basically parrot mediamaven, but I wanted to put it out there as well.

If Trump goes to hell, I hope he likes LMM mothers cooking, So OVER Rated !!!!!!!!!!!!!