Lin Manuel Miranda to Receive Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame...To Early?- Page 3

[Just_John]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 5:05pm

https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2017/06/22/minnie-mouse-mark-hamill-zoe-saldana-lin-manuel-miranda-and-more-will-receive-stars-on-the-hollywood-walk-of-fame/

These are all the stars that Disney purchased this week.   Also, I think we as "Sondheim's fan club" should raise the money though indiegogo or something similar to get Sondheim his star.  

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 5:25pm

I think we can sum this up by saying that fame is an incredibly hard thing to measure, as is influence and success. It's especially difficult when comparing someone in their 80s and someone in their 30s, the latter of whom is always going to be the more discussed and talked about on social media etc. As well as the fact that it's been a while since we've had a renowned musical from Sondheim yet we had a ridiculously renowned musical from LMM two years ago. Sondheim has done more in film thus far but LMM has signed onto many film projects in either writing or acting and will soon catch upto him. He already has two Grammys, three Tonys, an Emmy, the Pulitzer Prize, an Oscar nomination, a triple platinum record, one of the top 10 highest selling albums of last year (Hamilton OBCR) and one of the top 10 of this year (Moana soundtrack) and another album that went to #1 (Hamilton Mixtape). None of us know whether LMM will ever leave a legacy close to Sondheim's behind but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility, especially if he has one or two musicals left in him at the standard of Hamilton. I'm happy for LMM that he has received this star and would be happy to see Sondheim receive the same. Both are exceptional talents that are known entities to anyone that cares about theatre. 

Updated On: 6/23/17 at 05:25 PM

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 5:27pm

Double post.

[hork]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 6:43pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "They don't give them out for work on Broadway, so what is he getting it for? Moana?

 

I don't know why Lin is getting his, but they do in fact give them out for "live performance/theater". See Bernadette Peters.



 

In any case, the walk of fame is only around since 1960 and isn't really as prestigious as many seem to think.

 

Oh. I stand corrected.

 

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 7:19pm

froote said: "I think we can sum this up by saying that fame is an incredibly hard thing to measure, as is influence and success. It's especially difficult when comparing someone in their 80s and someone in their 30s, the latter of whom is always going to be the more discussed and talked about on social media etc. As well as the fact that it's been a while since we've had a renowned musical from Sondheim yet we had a ridiculously renowned musical from LMM two years ago. Sondheim has done more in film thus far but LMM has signed onto many film projects in either writing or acting and will soon catch upto him. He already has two Grammys, three Tonys, an Emmy, the Pulitzer Prize, an Oscar nomination, a triple platinum record, one of the top 10 highest selling albums of last year (Hamilton OBCR) and one of the top 10 of this year (Moana soundtrack) and another album that went to #1 (Hamilton Mixtape). None of us know whether LMM will ever leave a legacy close to Sondheim's behind but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility, especially if he has one or two musicals left in him at the standard of Hamilton. I'm happy for LMM that he has received this star and would be happy to see Sondheim receive the same. Both are exceptional talents that are known entities to anyone that cares about theatre. 

 

"

Ehhh.  LMM is "SANGRE GORDA".   And he would probably insincerely but sincerely agree.  Like Bette Midler would day;  "Blow more smoke up his a*s"

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 7:30pm

Just stating the facts of his achievements.

[blaxx]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 7:54pm

DAME said: "froote said: "I think we can sum this up by saying that fame is an incredibly hard thing to measure, as is influence and success. It's especially difficult when comparing someone in their 80s and someone in their 30s, the latter of whom is always going to be the more discussed and talked about on social media etc. As well as the fact that it's been a while since we've had a renowned musical from Sondheim yet we had a ridiculously renowned musical from LMM two years ago. Sondheim has done more in film thus far but LMM has signed onto many film projects in either writing or acting and will soon catch upto him. He already has two Grammys, three Tonys, an Emmy, the Pulitzer Prize, an Oscar nomination, a triple platinum record, one of the top 10 highest selling albums of last year (Hamilton OBCR) and one of the top 10 of this year (Moana soundtrack) and another album that went to #1 (Hamilton Mixtape). None of us know whether LMM will ever leave a legacy close to Sondheim's behind but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility, especially if he has one or two musicals left in him at the standard of Hamilton. I'm happy for LMM that he has received this star and would be happy to see Sondheim receive the same. Both are exceptional talents that are known entities to anyone that cares about theatre. 

 

"

Ehhh.  LMM is "SANGRE GORDA".   And he would probably insincerely but sincerely agree.  Like Bette Midler would day;  "Blow more smoke up his a*s"

 

"

When you successfully bring something to Broadway that has never worked before, you become a genius semi-God DaVinci's second coming. Just imagine if Jonathan Larson was still alive, NDB2D church anyone?  LMM is insufferable but the pressure is now huge on him. He had a temper tantrum when he lost the Oscar to Pasek and Paul and was bitter about handing DEH the Tony. His shows won't age well, but for now, saying anything against him is taboo. 

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 7:57pm

Proof of his temper tantrum and bitterness? He tweeted support for Dear Evan Hansen only a few hours ago.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:00pm

froote said: "Just stating the facts of his achievements.

 

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In other words..."Blowing smoke up his a*s"

 

But I am glad it gives you pleasure.

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:05pm

Ah yes how dare someone join a debate of how successful someone is by listing their achievements. I can't imagine how sad it is to be so bitter about someone who you don't know doing well in life. 

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:08pm

You were debating?  I thought you were preaching.  

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:09pm

I like the guy.  He seems pretty nice and his work really has been wonderful so far, but this should be something that happens later in someone's career.  I don't doubt that he deserves it, but maybe in ten years.  He's only really been working since 2007 or 2008, right?  To be awarded alongside people like Weird Al and Rupaul who have been working for decades, seems a bit much.

Blaxx, I really would like to hear your source about his apparent meltdown.  It would definitely surprise me to hear that this is true.

Also, yes, I agree that us Sondheimites should gather together the proper funds to get him a star.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:11pm

GeorgeandDot said: "Also, yes, I agree that us Sondheimites should gather together the proper funds to get him a star.

 

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I am in.

[trpguyy]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:13pm

One of the requirements of receiving a Star is to be both interested and promise to attend the ceremony. Sondheim doesn't seem as though he cares about this kind of sh*t, but I could be wrong. 

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:17pm

DAME said: "You were debating?  I thought you were preaching. "

I was adding to a debate. Perhaps you would like me to appear everytime you mention Bette by accusing you of preaching and blowing smoke up her ass.

[10086Sundays]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:18pm

I would think that having a theatre named after him(Sondheim) means a lot more than a slab of marble that gets trampled on all day.  At least, if I were to ever become successful and/or famous enough, I'd prefer the theatre or a university program or scholarship program in my honor.

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:21pm

^Exactly. Let's not act like Sondheim hasn't been honored in different, superior ways.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:22pm

froote said: "DAME said: "You were debating?  I thought you were preaching. "

I was adding to a debate. Perhaps you would like me to appear everytime you mention Bette by accusing you of preaching and blowing smoke up her ass.

 

"

Yes I would!   That way I can throw your ass down every time!   

[froote]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:24pm

Well I'm glad that's what gives YOU pleasure. Ciao.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:26pm

Nothing about this interaction gives me pleasure.  I am still bored.

[Big Apple2]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 9:32pm

C'mon people, it is the Walk of Fame - the one administered by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce. The timing could not have been any better. Hamilton opens there in about a month.  It's never too early, especially when it benefits local businesses and tourism. That's the Chamber's job!

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 9:56pm

froote said: "Margo319 said: "And yes, they pay 30 thousand, of their OWN money for it."

Again, no they do not. Not sure how many times this has to be said but it is paid for by a studio that sponsors them.

 

 

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Apparently it has to be explained at least once more. The fee may be paid by (a) a studio; (b) the recipient's fan club; or (c) the recipient him/herself. The Walk of Fame people don't care who pays for the star. I haven't yet seen any report of who is paying for LMM's star; most posters here assume it is the Disney company.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 10:08pm

As a former, long-time Los Angeleno, I am well aware of the publicity function of the Walk of Fame, and of the uneven merits of the honorees.

But didn't the documentary about Adam West a few years ago show him anxiously waiting to hear whether he would get a star, only to be disappointed--once again? IIRC, his fans had raised the money and submitted the application on his behalf. He was gracious about the disappointment, but it seemed to matter to him very much.

So maybe Julia Roberts doesn't care, but B-lister cares very much. (And maybe Mr. West will finally get his star now that he is dead.)

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 10:16pm

hork said: "Also, please learn to spell simple words like "have," "too" and "than." It hurts my soul.

 

It hurts my eyes. Especially as a thread title. 

 

[leighmiserables]

Posted: 6/23/17 at 10:43pm

Not to be "that guy" but honestly: who cares? It's an expensive rock. Whether you're happy, annoyed, or somewhere in between is really neither here nor there. I think it's been made clear that getting a star is little more than an advertisement/status thing for companies that people work for (and an awful one at that. Who thinks, "Ah. This person has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That must mean they're better than [insert name of person who doesn't have star]!) and we really have no reason to argue about it. 

I saw the news this morning and honestly the only thing I thought was, "Huh. That's funny that Lin and Weird Al were hanging out together when they found out," and then I forgot about it until seeing this thread. 

Updated On: 6/23/17 at 10:43 PM