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#1

LuPone GYPSY & other shows created without the possibility of a repl. cast

I know that GYPSY is to be a "limited run" and is a star vehicle for Patti, but why are shows being mounted without the possibility of ever running without the opening cast intact?

Why couldn't this revival of GYPSY run after Patti is done with a replacement? Judy Kaye, Christine Ebersole, anyone?

There have been plenty of productions that were derived from the star power of the lead, but stayed open. What prompted me to ask this is hearing how Anne Baxter was a replacement in Applause! after Bacall had left.

Are these shows being too heavily marketed for one star? Why are shows being created to simply be doomed after their lead leaves?

I remember the talk of Grey Gardens' stability if it had run after Christine would have left, and I ask, why the hell not?


Updated On: 2/12/08 at 07:19 PM

#3

re: LuPone GYPSY & other shows created without the possibility of a repl. cast

They did.

But in that instance, popular opinion was that Hugh's talent hugely overshadowed the quality of the actual material.

With GG and Gypsy, the shows can stand on their own with a miriad of other actors (well actresses in those 2 cases) so you'd think they would be able to survive.
#6

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Thats sort of the bone that I'm trying to pick.

Its seems that some of these shows are becoming over-dependant on their opening cast so much so that people foresee their closing as soon as a lead leaves.

Yes, we all know that GYPSY is happening because of LuPone/Laurents and the CC production, but the average theater-goer seeing GYPSY for the actual material would be able to see it with a "replacement."
#9

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This is true.

But before sales were threatening it's staying open, people were discussing replacements and many felt it should just close with Ebersole's departure.

I just feel like if you were to ask a user on this board who would replace LuPone, the majority would raise an eyebrow and say "wouldn't it just close when she leaves?"

It just feels assumed.

Updated On: 2/12/08 at 07:44 PM

#13

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This one may not run its intended 'Limited Season' even with Patti still in it.
'Limited Season' is always a good excuse to take a show off when the producers see fit!
A young actress with Noel coward after a dreadful opening night performance said to him 'Well, i knew my lines backwards this morning!'' Noels fast reply was ''Yes dear, and thats exactly how you said them tonight'!'
#14

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I don't know... maybe it just feels very pessimistic.

MAME ran for close to 4 years with a handful of actresses taking over the role after TONY-winning Lansbury left the production.

I just feel this GYPSY production was very well done with a great calibre of talent in the cast and directed so well to the point that none of the numbers felt "throw-away" so therefore it deserves to continue even after LuPone leaves.

Yes, LuPone is to thank for a chunk of this, but there was so much else at play in the CC production that made it outstanding that stands to be lost if it simply closes post-LuPone.
#16

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I'm not disputing that in the least.

Blah , whatever forget it.

Maybe LuPONE GYPSY (to be read as one word I suppose) is not the correct example.

I'm just pointing out that it seems a reoccuring theme that great shows that, yes, include a powerhouse lead should be given the chance to continue if the rest of the production is just as good.
#17

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logan---I totally agree with you.

I understand the opposite example/train of thought: that shows like Mame ran without the title character. However, LUPONE GYPSY seems to be a little different of the case. It would be awkward for another major powerhouse such as Ebersole or Murphy joined the cast, and the marquis had to be all changed EBERSOLE GYPSY or so forth. That's a little strange.
#19

re: LuPone GYPSY & other shows created without the possibility of a repl. c

I mentioned Applause! earlier.

It opened with Bacall because she was a huge celebrity doing this piece. On all accounts we can agree that she was the draw for the show.

The role of Margo was then played by 2 other actresses and the show ran for 2 years and nearly 900 performances.

How is "Lauren Bacall - Applause!" (note the name above the title status of the production) changing to Anne Baxter then Arlene Dahl - Applause! not strange but "LuPone Gypsy" having someone else take over the lead role "strange"

#24

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The only reason this revival is happening is to have Patti LuPone play Mama Rose on Broadway. That's it. Nobody was really yearning for another revival of Gypsy; it's purely for Patti. Therefore, once she leaves, there really isn't any reason to keep it open.

For a show like Applause, that was a new show that used a big-named star; correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the thought process was, "I want to see Lauren Bacall on Broadway. Let's write a show for her!" Because, essentially, that is the thought process with this revival: "I want to see Patti as Mama Rose. Let's revive Gypsy!"

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