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MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
#25re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 12:01pmI've honestly sat through Kit Kittredge several times because she's a really good, honest young actress. I think she's also really smart about what she chooses to do, and I imagine this will be a really good move for her.
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
#26re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 12:09pm
Has there ever been a production of CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD with a hearing actress?
I'm sure there have been a few regional productions which did.
I bet they could have found a name and Box Office draw for Anne and then cast Helen from the deaf community. And that alone could be a draw if advertised well.
Same here!
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Jon
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#27re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 12:15pm
Hell, actresses with perfect sight have been known to fall off the stage while playing Helen - just check YouTube!
By the way, there's a whole generation who know Allison Pill as Lindsay Lohan's BFF from "Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen".
#28re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 12:23pm
I know Alison Pill best as the Amish girl in Plain Truth. I've unfortunately never seen her in any of the shows she's done.
I must admit I'm having trouble thinking of well-known actresses her age who I think would be good in the role. Did any of you have specific actresses in mind?
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
#29re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:04pm
The names everyone seems to throw around here ... for everything from Wicked, to Promises, Promises, to Ben Franklin in 1776!
Scarlett Johansen or Anne Hathaway.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#30re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:09pm
I think Breslin is cute and charming but checking out some pictures at Getty Images yesterday she is growing up super fast. Little Miss Bustline!
Pill is actually closer to the age of the actual Sullivan than anyone I've ever heard of playing the role in a major professional production. Of course having an Annie who is actually close to 20 makes more sense of if you have a Helen who is actually close to 6...
Other actors 2-3 years of the age of Alison Pill who might have been able to pull it off: Jena Malone, Kate Bosworth, the ever popular on this site, Emily Blunt, Abbie Cornish, Anna Paquin, Amber Tamblyn, Anne Hathaway, Keira Knightly, Evan Rachel Wood, Bryce Dallas Howard
#31re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:11pmGood suggestions, MB! I actually really like the suggestion of Amber Tamblyn.
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
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#32re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:18pmI hope the Wiccans get after Joe Mantello for not casting an actual Witch in Wicked.
#33re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:21pm
Breslin is 13. Patty Duke was 11 when the show opened and turned 12 two months later. She played the part for almost 2 years.
She was 15 when the movie opened (winning the Oscar at 16, when the awards were given out).
Anne Bancroft was 27 when the play opened (turning 28 a month later). 31 when the film opened.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#34re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:27pmPatty Duke was really really tiny though. You can see from the pictures in the Life archives. Bancroft was also a pretty tall sturdy woman. I do fear Breslin is going to look like she can knock that waifish Alison Pill have way to Arkansas in those fight scenes.
#35re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 1:33pmGee, where were all the animal rights activists when Lion King opened? They really missed the boat on that one.
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Gothampc
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#36re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 2:01pm
The Breslin casting makes perfect sense. If you can get the Kit Kittredge crowd coming, then you are generating profit. Those little girls will pester their mothers to death until they can see the Kit Kittredge girl live. Plus they'll probably do a cute marketing ploy like they did with Little Women where if a little girl brings her mother, then it's two for the price of one.
I hate to be a cynic, but I bet this is being done to put the squeeze on the producers to make a donation.
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#37re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 2:08pm
"I hope the Wiccans get after Joe Mantello for not casting an actual witch in WICKED"
Who says he hasn't?
workmanarts
Understudy Joined: 2/28/05
#38re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 2:09pm
This is literally one of the dumbest things I've heard...it would be near impossible to do this show with a deaf Helen. Her physical work is huge in the production and something that, dare I say, couldn't be done by a hearing impaired artist.
I for one think its pretty inspired casting, will sit GREAT in the round and excited to see/here about the touch Kate puts on it. She could be one of the next great American Theatre Directors....
#39re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 2:26pm
This is literally one of the dumbest things I've heard...it would be near impossible to do this show with a deaf Helen. Her physical work is huge in the production and something that, dare I say, couldn't be done by a hearing impaired artist.
WTF?
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#40re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 4:56pmFor a bunch of deaf people, these advocacy groups are making a whole lot of noise lately--most of it hot air. When are they going to shut up and realize that not everything is an affront to them?
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#41re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 4:59pm
The whole argument is academic. Half of them won't listen and the other half will never see your point.
OK, there, the floodgates are open. Who didn't want to work in a Helen Keller joke somewhere?
And for what it's worth, Miracle Worker was the first show I did in college and our (sighted) Helen still managed to take a header into the pit...
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#42re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 5:13pm
"For a bunch of deaf people, these advocacy groups are making a whole lot of noise lately"
They're deaf, not mute.
#43re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 5:20pm
Well, by their logic, they'd want someone deaf, mute, and blind who only learns to speak one word during the rehearsal process...
Logistical question, though--when did these groups start to become so vocal and adamant? I don't remember any controversy surrounding the Swank revival of The Miracle Worker, which had a hearing actress as Helen. Nobody is up in arms about the fact that the kid in a wheelchair from Glee is played by a non-paralyzed actor.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#44re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 5:31pmAs someone else pointed out, these things take time.
workmanarts
Understudy Joined: 2/28/05
#45re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 5:34pm
Lizzie Curry- Was meant in reference to cues Helen has to be able to "hear" during the show given by the actors. It would be near impossible to give visual cues to all of the dialogue she needs to hear and react to.
DeafWest incorporated a variety of visual cues to assist their hard of hearing actors in Big River and Pippin that can only be duplicated in specific shows...namely musicals.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#46re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 6:16pm
"And for what it's worth, Miracle Worker was the first show I did in college and our (sighted) Helen still managed to take a header into the pit..."
Doesn't anyone put netting over their pit anymore?
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dramamama611
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#47re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 6:22pmIt is written into the rights and royalties for Children of a Lesser God that the lead role MUST be played by a hearing impaired actress. I do not know if you can get that requirement dropped. It use to be pretty steadfast....but lots of time has elapsed.
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#48re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 6:22pm
Well, by their logic, they'd want someone deaf, mute, and blind who only learns to speak one word during the rehearsal process...
No, they're upset and opposing that no hard-of-hearing or deaf or visually impaired or blind actresses were auditioned. No one is saying only a blind or deaf or deafblind actress could play Helen Keller. Helen Keller was not, by the way, a mute. She was beginning to speak when she became ill and lost her sight and hearing, but she did manage to hold onto a few words.
I think there'd be a definite challenge having a blind or deaf actress in the role. The more I think about it, though, the more I realize that it's not an insurmountable issue. I think Abigail Breslin will be wonderful, I'd love if her understudy was deaf or blind, but I have to agree that it's a little upsetting that no blind or deaf actresses were even auditioned.
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
#49re: MIRACLE WORKER already drawing protests
Posted: 10/29/09 at 6:32pm
DeafWest incorporated a variety of visual cues to assist their hard of hearing actors in Big River and Pippin that can only be duplicated in specific shows...namely musicals.
I know; I saw Big River 5 times and Pippin once. But I also don't doubt the ingenuity of the Deaf community.
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