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#1

Memory Lane


Memory Lane. I love you so. But why do you leave me so sad?

Memory Lane. The most beautiful street in the world, where roses bloom and happiness reigns. But why do you leave so heavy a heart?

The obscure title thread prompted me to stroll once again down that magical byway, after seeing the quirky titles of those ephemeral little comedies of long ago. How good it was to think about them again!: the anticipation of seeing them; looking at the marquees and pictures outside the theatre; the fun they were to watch; the laughs they prompted; the feelings of happiness, elation, and effervescence they inspired, that persisted long after the curtain fell; the delight in reading the playbill for days after to relive the experience, even down to the credits in tiny print about who provided gloves, hats, and cufflinks to the production! Those feelings were so indelible, so priceless, so precious. How wonderful to relive them! But then, inevitably, the doleful moment of reckoning: they're as long gone as the plays that prompted them. And all we're left to do now is contemplate the distance from there to here, and lament the wreckage.

As our greatest living lyricist (and composer) wrote, "the fizz doesn't fizz too long." I didn't realize then that that would apply --- and so drastically --- to our beloved theatre. But I guess it's just as well that I didn't. I wouldn't have --- actually couldn't have --- enjoyed the fizz any more, and knowing what was to come would only have cast a pall over the whole experience.

Memory Lane. I love you so. But why do you leave me so sad?

#2

Memory Lane

Fondly remember Times Square in the 60's when the place was still in good shape. Then the destruction of the big palaces started and now we have Disneyland.Everything of any consequence has come down in the name of progress.

Oh well such is life


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Updated On: 9/16/15 at 09:49 AM

#3

Memory Lane

After Eight - Beautifully written. I feel the same way about so much in life also. I remember my parents lamenting lost pleasures the same way you are. I've come to realize it has to happen. The youth of today is enjoying their culture as much as we did ours and I'm sure they will lament it when they reach a certain age and don't get the new culture of the day.

I agree with the tern "wreckage" but unfortunately it's just the new and different. ugh.


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#4

Memory Lane

Slightly off topic, but After Eight, did you ever attend any of the Original Neil Simon plays on Broadway? or anyone else for that matter?

#5

Memory Lane

That was very beautifully written — made me nostalgic for a time I wasn't alive to see.

But, as our greatest living lyricist (and composer) said,

The best of times is now
What's left of Summer
But a faded rose?
The best of times is now
As for tomorrow, well, who knows?
Who knows? Who knows?

So hold this moment fast
And live and love
As hard as you know how
And make this moment last
Because the best of times is now
Is now, is now

Now, not some forgotten yesterday
Now, tomorrow is too far away

So hold this moment fast
And live and love
As hard as you know how
And make this moment last
Because the best of times is now

#6

Memory Lane

Thanks for this post, After Eight. I feel like someone could set it to music- a kind of Adam Guettel sweeping melody Light in the Piazza type thing.

I'm sure I'll become nostalgic for the past as I age. The trick will be not letting my nostalgia cloud my ability to find joy in the present/future. Things change, but there is beauty to be found in every decade of theater/film/art.


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#7

Memory Lane

Well said Whizzer!


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#8

Memory Lane

One of the things that sticks in my mind were the Playlands. One was on the site of the front entrance of the Renaissance Hotel. Another was on the corner of the Novotel.

They had a gunslinger called Black Bart who actually drew against you. Another was a huge son of a gun of a machine where you sunk submarines with a real periscope etc. Times were simpler than

There was so much there (Times Square)you did not know where to start.


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Updated On: 9/16/15 at 12:11 PM

#9

Memory Lane

To quote Sheridan Whiteside, "I may vomit." There is nothing worse than a bunch of alter kockers wallowing in the past. After Eight, why do you keep going to the theatre if it brings you no pleasure? You hate every contemporary play and musical. Stay home, polish your glass animals and read your old Playbills. I'm convinced your hate is the only thing keeping you alive.

#10

Memory Lane

Some,

My favorites were Barefoot in the Park and The Star-Spangled Girl.

#11

Memory Lane

I would love to have lunch with After Eight.

#12

Memory Lane

"I may vomit."

Go right ahead. Not in my vicinity, though.

Isn't it interesting how other people's memories cause such violent anger in some people? Or is it really other people's happiness that drives them up the wall? Oh, well, in any event, jealousy, envy, and spite are such ugly emotions. Ugly emotions by ugly people. Happily, one's memories remain impervious to malice ---which probably drives them even further up the wall.

"There is nothing worse than a bunch of alter kockers wallowing in the past."

No doubt such ageist, derogatory expressions appear regularly in the conversation of your snotty set.

However, they are not acceptable here.

#13

Memory Lane

Thanks for bringing a little joy to the board today, After Eight.


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#14

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I wonder who made the anti old people comments.No I don't.

I take solace in the fact they will one day, if they are lucky, get to be my age. Let us see how they handle the same crap they now throw when it is hurled at them.


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#15

Memory Lane

"Let us see how they handle the same crap they now throw when it is hurled at them."

Mr. Roxy,

They'll no doubt react the same way they do now: stomp their feet, have a temper tantrum, and spew a lot of four-letter words.

I'm reminded of the lyrics in that wonderful song, "The Other Generation:"

"I hope our grandsons give their fathers hell." "Can't wait to see it."

Oscar Hammerstein: truly something wonderful.

Updated On: 9/16/15 at 04:38 PM

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Memory Lane

I don't think anyone is complaining about old people. What I am reading is about that subset of old folks who build a fortress around the past and allow themselves to be deluded into thinking it is somehow better than the present. I know lots of very old people who relish the present and even the future. "Living in the past" is anyone's right, but it is not healthy. And those who work with the senior population will tell you that it is akin to having one foot in the grave. Nostalgia is fine, but the theatre is not about nostalgia. That's what makes it so wonderful. You can easily dwell in old movies and you of course can dwell in old cast recordings, but make no mistake about it, you are not interested in the theatre when that's all you do.

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Memory Lane

"I would love to have lunch with After Eight."

I agree whole heartedly ... After Eight is a skilled writer. I did not notice anything from him for the last few months until fairly recently.

Welcome back, After Eight. I doubt that I am the only non-senior who is glad you are back. You add a unique and entertaining texture to this board. I wish more of us could offer this board as much as you do.

Updated On: 9/16/15 at 05:00 PM

#18

Memory Lane

After & I disagree on shows but still enjoy his posts.

I pity those who feel the need to be nasty and vicious. I think even Will Rogers would have a problem liking these malcontents .


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Updated On: 9/16/15 at 05:21 PM

#19

Memory Lane

To JPeterman, and to all those here who offered me kind words:

Thank you very much.

#20

Memory Lane

After Eight said: " To JPeterman, and to all those here who offered me kind words:

Thank you very much."

Perhaps, After Eight, you can learn some grace from them. You have not shown a hint of kindness towards those who have tastes different than your own.

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Memory Lane

Hogan's Hero said - "I don't think anyone is complaining about old people."

When you refer to them as a bunch of Alter Kockers (spelled incorrectly btw), you sure are complaining about them.

"What I am reading is about that subset of old folks who build a fortress around the past and allow themselves to be deluded into thinking it is somehow better than the present."

I'm one of those old folks and I'm not deluded into thinking anything about anything, thank you. And yes indeed, I think the culture of my day is "somehow" better than the present. Why do you use the term "deluded" in describing the way we feel?

I find your entire post to be pretty offensive.


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Updated On: 9/16/15 at 08:45 PM

#22

Memory Lane

After Eight said: "Or is it really other people's happiness that drives them up the wall?"

You can answer that just as well as anyone, since happiness people have re: Fun Home and Hamilton seems to drive you up the wall.

#23

Memory Lane

^^^ Roxy too.


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#24

Memory Lane

Jane2 said: "When you refer to them as a bunch of Alter Kockers (spelled incorrectly btw), you sure are complaining about them."

I was not the one who said that, but note that the person who did said "a bunch of alter kockers wallowing in the past." Big difference, and one that is integral to everything I wrote.

"I'm one of those old folks and I'm not deluded into thinking anything about anything, thank you. And yes indeed, I think the culture of my day is "somehow" better than the present. Why do you use the term "deluded" in describing the way we feel?"

My recollection of the posts of yours that I have read (correct me if I am wrong) is that you are NOT someone who wallows in the past. Do you not go to the theatre with an open mind, hoping to be thrilled?

You are certainly entitled (as is everyone, even After Eight) to like what you like. The issue to me is that the theatre is a living breathing art form, not a museum piece. It does not live in cast recordings or in our memory. And if that's what you advocate, you are not a theatre lover. I know dozens of old people who go to the theatre to be challenged, and to be exposed to something new, something that makes them look at the world in a different way. And if you find that offensive I'm sorry.

I find your entire post to be pretty offensive.

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#25

Memory Lane

Some people would have you believe that a toxic waste dump is an improvement over the flower-filled garden destroyed to make way for it, and that the fumes emanating therefrom are superior to the perfumes of yore.

Malevolent people.

Then they rage against those who refuse to buy their toxic lies.

They can stew in their own bile.

Updated On: 9/17/15 at 04:03 AM

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