Miss Saigon Movie — Page 2
#27
Posted: 5/23/14 at 10:15am
Thanks! And what is your opinion?
Will you be very upset if it is done in a more filmic way than Les Mis was done?
Will you be very upset if it is done in a more filmic way than Les Mis was done?
#28
Posted: 5/23/14 at 10:39am
I won't be upset, very or otherwise, either way.
Updated On: 5/23/14 at 10:39 AM
#30
Posted: 5/23/14 at 11:09am
Perfect, then there's no need for name-calling or reacting in general in this topic for you Phyllis. Good.
And Carlos, if you really mean what you say, that was your last post in this thread too.
Now that we've got that clear, let the on-topic discussion continue.
And Carlos, if you really mean what you say, that was your last post in this thread too.
Now that we've got that clear, let the on-topic discussion continue.
#33
Posted: 5/23/14 at 12:22pm
I enjoy this fake Miss Saigon movie trailer. If done right I think the movie could be epic.
It switches songs too often. Most musical theatre movie trailers pick one song and stick with it.
It switches songs too often. Most musical theatre movie trailers pick one song and stick with it.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
#34
Posted: 5/23/14 at 4:01pm
I think Quentin Tarantino would be perfect for this. Even though I'm not necessarily sure if musical theatre is his forte, I think he would bring a lot to it.
#35
Posted: 5/23/14 at 4:23pm
Yes please Quentin--more bloody bodies everywhere-too much of this sob-sister-Saigon-stuff already.
Forgot the discussion was about a Movie and not the Stage-how could I?-so engros[s?]ing
Forgot the discussion was about a Movie and not the Stage-how could I?-so engros[s?]ing
Updated On: 5/23/14 at 04:23 PM
#37
Posted: 5/24/14 at 4:15pm
"Cameron Mackintosh reported that the film version of Miss Saigon depends on whether the Les Misérables film is a success."
OK well, the Les Mis film became a huge success. So why aren't they making the Miss Saigon movie right now?
OK well, the Les Mis film became a huge success. So why aren't they making the Miss Saigon movie right now?
#38
Posted: 5/24/14 at 8:29pm
^They've been busy bees, but hopefully development will begin soon. For me, it's either Kenneth Branagh or Robert Stromberg (depending on his directorial debut with Maleficent) for they have a distinct, visual style that can work with this kind of material. I guess I was one of the very few people who really enjoyed the Les Mis movie.
#39
Posted: 5/24/14 at 9:54pm
>I guess I was one of the very few people who really enjoyed the Les Mis movie.<<<
Count me in, too
...plus $ 442 million worth of worldwide cinema admission tickets and $ 64 million worth of USA-only BluRay/DVD sales --
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Miserables-Les#tab=summary
Not to count the downloads and other interest signified through the Billboard chart hit of the soundtrack.
And hey --
the Oscar/GoldenGlobes/Bafta/ScreenActorsGuild/DirectorsGuild and a few others gave the movie, its cast, and its creative team nominations for excellence, even awarding the film a few wins! Can't be all that bad
I am a great musical theatre fan, too - and have seen many productions on both Broadway and the West End. I have seen the original cast staging of Miss Saigon in London and many stagings of Les Miserables - including a second year staging with Gary Morris/Michael MaGuire and 8 other stagings on Broadway, London, Paris and even where I live ( where Lea Salonga comes from). But I can appreciate enough to know that a cinematic vision and its execution can also be even more satisfying! I think I have already exceeded the 9 times I have seen the stage production of Les Miserables with the number of viewings at the cinema and on BluRay ...and it gives me more and more pleasure everytime as it is my favorite musical. I have also read the unabridged translation of the Victor Hugo classic ( the first time was when I first saw the musical and the second time was many years later when the film adaptation was in production). I am glad that many passages ( not found on the stage production) found their way to the film adaptation, making it a richer translation of this literary gem! To me, what enriched the film adaptation are the excellent acting choices which made the characterizations more vivid, complemented by the singing choices...plus the cinematic vision from its director, Oscar-winner Tom Hooper!
Its true test is when you see how much it was appreciated in the cinemas all over the world. You may have to check out BoxOfficeMojo for that, except of course the differences in currency translations may skew how much it is appreciated in each part of the world! Odd one out is France where it did not do too well - too sacred a subject to be filmed by another nation and a non-French cast? Hmmm...
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=lesmiserables2012.htm
Count me in, too
...plus $ 442 million worth of worldwide cinema admission tickets and $ 64 million worth of USA-only BluRay/DVD sales -- https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Miserables-Les#tab=summary
Not to count the downloads and other interest signified through the Billboard chart hit of the soundtrack.
And hey --
the Oscar/GoldenGlobes/Bafta/ScreenActorsGuild/DirectorsGuild and a few others gave the movie, its cast, and its creative team nominations for excellence, even awarding the film a few wins! Can't be all that bad
I am a great musical theatre fan, too - and have seen many productions on both Broadway and the West End. I have seen the original cast staging of Miss Saigon in London and many stagings of Les Miserables - including a second year staging with Gary Morris/Michael MaGuire and 8 other stagings on Broadway, London, Paris and even where I live ( where Lea Salonga comes from). But I can appreciate enough to know that a cinematic vision and its execution can also be even more satisfying! I think I have already exceeded the 9 times I have seen the stage production of Les Miserables with the number of viewings at the cinema and on BluRay ...and it gives me more and more pleasure everytime as it is my favorite musical. I have also read the unabridged translation of the Victor Hugo classic ( the first time was when I first saw the musical and the second time was many years later when the film adaptation was in production). I am glad that many passages ( not found on the stage production) found their way to the film adaptation, making it a richer translation of this literary gem! To me, what enriched the film adaptation are the excellent acting choices which made the characterizations more vivid, complemented by the singing choices...plus the cinematic vision from its director, Oscar-winner Tom Hooper!
Its true test is when you see how much it was appreciated in the cinemas all over the world. You may have to check out BoxOfficeMojo for that, except of course the differences in currency translations may skew how much it is appreciated in each part of the world! Odd one out is France where it did not do too well - too sacred a subject to be filmed by another nation and a non-French cast? Hmmm...
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=lesmiserables2012.htm
Updated On: 5/24/14 at 09:54 PM
#40
Posted: 5/25/14 at 12:57am
I always thought LES MIS was too unwieldy a musical to be translated into film just by virtue of the source material. In comparison, MISS SAIGON has a more focused story and fewer characters that could potentially do well as a movie based on precedents like PLATOON etc.
I don't want to see Eva Noblezada's Kim in the film version. She doesn't have the prettiness that Lea Salonga had (and still has) so Noblezada is better off onstage as she's meant to be seen from afar and not up close on a movie screen.
I'd like to see a new Kim for the movie and for real singers to be cast. I don't want another LES MIS adaptation, which doesn't hold up to repeat viewings largely because of the horrific singing from the likes of Amanda Seyfried.
Plus, the lyrics being used in the current West End revival need to revert to the lyrics that premiered on Broadway in 1991. The new ones are unnecessary and, to put it bluntly, they just plain suck.
I don't want to see Eva Noblezada's Kim in the film version. She doesn't have the prettiness that Lea Salonga had (and still has) so Noblezada is better off onstage as she's meant to be seen from afar and not up close on a movie screen.
I'd like to see a new Kim for the movie and for real singers to be cast. I don't want another LES MIS adaptation, which doesn't hold up to repeat viewings largely because of the horrific singing from the likes of Amanda Seyfried.
Plus, the lyrics being used in the current West End revival need to revert to the lyrics that premiered on Broadway in 1991. The new ones are unnecessary and, to put it bluntly, they just plain suck.
#41
Posted: 5/25/14 at 2:38pm
Isn't Lee Daniels attached to this? I know he's been trying to get this project off the ground. I actually think he would be perfect for this material, most of his films deal with very high melodrama to almost operatic effect. I would be very fascinated to see what he can bring to this piece
#44
Posted: 5/25/14 at 7:38pm
She doesn't really look Vietnamese, though.
Also, I dug up the aforementioned audio clip and it does sound like she's yelling more than singing. Sad, because I really liked her vocals in that competition video.
Also, I dug up the aforementioned audio clip and it does sound like she's yelling more than singing. Sad, because I really liked her vocals in that competition video.
Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!
Updated On: 5/25/14 at 07:38 PM
#45
Posted: 5/25/14 at 8:17pm
I am really hoping you are not judging her off of that audio clip from her first PREVIEW.
#46
Posted: 5/25/14 at 8:28pm
I think for a Miss Saigon you need a director that can handle big sweeping scenes like Kim's Nightmare and the smaller,intimate scenes like Sun and Moon. That is why I don't think Quentin Tarantino should direct the film. A director like Rob Marshall or Francis Lawrence that have experience with films that require both details.
As far as casting Eva as Kim, I think it would be a great choice. She is beautiful and would be a good transfer for her from the Prince Edward to the film set. If the creative does not use Eva as Kim, Jessica Sanchez could be another possible choice or another complete unknown.
Now, I'm not sure if this has been addressed but, where would they shoot the film? They could shoot the exterior Saigon in Ho Chi Minh City and the interior Dreamland scenes on a set in London or USA. The Atlanta scenes could be shot on location in Atlanta and on a set in Atlanta. The Bangkok scenes could be filmed in Bangkok and the interior scenes could again be shot on a set.
As far as casting Eva as Kim, I think it would be a great choice. She is beautiful and would be a good transfer for her from the Prince Edward to the film set. If the creative does not use Eva as Kim, Jessica Sanchez could be another possible choice or another complete unknown.
Now, I'm not sure if this has been addressed but, where would they shoot the film? They could shoot the exterior Saigon in Ho Chi Minh City and the interior Dreamland scenes on a set in London or USA. The Atlanta scenes could be shot on location in Atlanta and on a set in Atlanta. The Bangkok scenes could be filmed in Bangkok and the interior scenes could again be shot on a set.
#47
Posted: 5/25/14 at 8:31pm
"I don't want to see Eva Noblezada's Kim in the film version. She doesn't have the prettiness that Lea Salonga had"
What does that even mean?
What does that even mean?
#48
Posted: 5/26/14 at 2:23am
ShakinBaconGirl, it means you don't know how to read either literally or between the lines.
#49
Posted: 5/26/14 at 2:30am
"Also, I dug up the aforementioned audio clip and it does sound like she's yelling more than singing. Sad, because I really liked her vocals in that competition video."
That's because she is yelling and not singing. When Cameron Mackintosh released that official revival cast video, the clip of Eva Noblezada was one in which she was badly singing that passage of of D-flats in I'D GIVE MY LIFE FOR YOU. I couldn't quite understand why CM chose that one clip to showcase his "find" EN when her vocal line was steadily flatting out of tune. It was painful and didn't place EN in a good light at all.
That's because she is yelling and not singing. When Cameron Mackintosh released that official revival cast video, the clip of Eva Noblezada was one in which she was badly singing that passage of of D-flats in I'D GIVE MY LIFE FOR YOU. I couldn't quite understand why CM chose that one clip to showcase his "find" EN when her vocal line was steadily flatting out of tune. It was painful and didn't place EN in a good light at all.
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