Music Man Cast Recording- Page 2

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 9:53am

mamaleh said: "I cannot comment on Max Clayton's Harold Hill, as I did not see the show with him in that role. I appreciate that many of his fans applauded his portrayal. However, I did see him twice cover for Remy Auberjonois in the Charlie Cowell role. I much preferred Remy. Mr. Clayton raced through his lines and did not convey anywhere near the apoplectic anger and malice conjured so deliciously by Remy. Whether those were Mr. Clayton's choices or the director's I do not know."

This probably has more to do with the fact that Charlie isn’t actually a role he covers and he probably learned the track that day or over the course of a couple quick rehearsals. Standbys for a lead role never cover other roles, but we’ve now seen Max cover Charlie and Marcellus, likely due to COVID illnesses requiring all swings in deck. Highly unusual circumstance and hardly indicative of how he handled a role that he built for Hugh Jackman to learn.

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 10:21am

ColorTheHours048 said: "mamaleh said: "I cannot comment on Max Clayton's Harold Hill, as I did not see the show with him in that role. I appreciate that many of his fans applauded his portrayal. However, I did see him twice cover for Remy Auberjonois in the Charlie Cowell role. I much preferred Remy. Mr. Clayton raced through his lines and did not convey anywhere near the apoplectic anger and malice conjured so deliciously by Remy. Whether those were Mr. Clayton's choices or the director's I do not know."

This probably has more to do with the fact that Charlie isn’t actually a role he covers and he probably learned the track that day or over the course of a couple quick rehearsals. Standbys for a lead role never cover other roles, but we’ve now seen Max cover Charlie and Marcellus, likely due to COVID illnesses requiring all swings in deck. Highly unusual circumstance and hardly indicative of how he handled a role that he built for Hugh Jackman to learn."

Max Clayton built the role for Hugh Jackman to learn??

Incroyable!

A Max Clayton teaching the Hugh Jackman how to interpret and act out a role??

A Max Clayton teaching the Hugh Jackman how to sing in musical theatre??

Max may have done the preliminary dance workshop ( Hugh was away filming) to test some of the new choreography from Warren Carlyle, but it did not mean that he was there teaching Hugh all the dance steps until previews started?  Hugh has a long professional relationship with Carlyle having been the dance captain in Oklahoma! and  being the musical director of Hugh's  BackOnBroadway, the 2014 Tonys & the 2019 Jackman music tour -- and danced with him a few days a week during the 2 year pandemic -- so if there is anyone who harnessed Hugh's dance ability, it is more to do with Carlyle working with him for a long time.

During the pandemic, Hugh posted about the lessons with Music Director Patrick Vaccariello ( who has worked with him since The Boy From Oz) on the music and songs from The Music Man.

Let's not give Max more than his due. I saw one show ( 3rd row center) when he was filling in for Hugh ( tickets I bought when Hugh was on schedule which I  did not get refunded because I had guests from out of town) -- he may have been technically competent dance- and song-wise but he was not particularly impressive to me. He was rushing ...and his acting lacked finesse!  If some people here appreciated him more, that's their own appreciation of the artist. But let us not imply that the role belongs to him because he created it!

 

Updated On: 7/22/22 at 10:21 AM

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 10:52am

Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!

[Dollypop]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:00am

jo said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "mamaleh said: "I cannot comment on Max Clayton's Harold Hill, as I did not see the show with him in that role. I appreciate that many of his fans applauded his portrayal. However, I did see him twice cover for Remy Auberjonois in the Charlie Cowell role. I much preferred Remy. Mr. Clayton raced through his lines and did not convey anywhere near the apoplectic anger and malice conjured so deliciously by Remy. Whether those were Mr. Clayton's choices or the director's I do not know."

This probably has more to do with the fact that Charlie isn’t actually a role he covers and he probably learned the track that day or over the course of a couple quick rehearsals. Standbys for a lead role never cover other roles, but we’ve now seen Max cover Charlie and Marcellus, likely due to COVID illnesses requiring all swings in deck. Highly unusual circumstance and hardly indicative of how he handled a role that he built for Hugh Jackman to learn."

Max Clayton built the role for Hugh Jackman to learn??

Incroyable!

A Max Clayton teaching the Hugh Jackman how to interpret and act out a role??

A Max Clayton teaching the Hugh Jackman how to sing in musical theatre??

Max may have done the preliminary dance workshop ( Hugh was away filming) to test some of the new choreography from Warren Carlyle, but it did not mean that he was there teaching Hugh all the dance steps until previews started? Hugh has a long professional relationship with Carlyle having been the dance captain in Oklahoma! and being the musical director of Hugh's BackOnBroadway, the 2014 Tonys & the 2019 Jackman 2019 tour -- and danced with him a few days a week during the 2 year pandemic -- so if there is anyone who harnessed Hugh's dance ability, it is more to do with Carlyle working with him for a long time.

During the pandemic, Hugh posted about the lessons with Music Director Patrick Vaccariello ( who has worked with him since The Boy From Oz) on the music and songs from The Music Man.

Let's not give Max more than his due. I saw one show ( 3rd row center) when he was filling in for Hugh ( tickets I bought when Hugh was on schedule which I did not get refunded because I had guests from out of town) -- he may have been technically competent dance- and song-wise but he was not particularly impressive to me. He was rushing ...and his acting lacked finesse! If some people here appreciated him more, that's their own appreciation of the artist. But let us not imply that the role belongs to him because he created it!

 

I have to disagree with you, Jo. Max:s performance as Harold Hill was one of the finest I've seen in the role. No rushing. Great comic timing and a beaugiful, tender, relationship with Winthrop.

"

 

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:04am

ColorTheHours048 said: "Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!" 

You started it with your outlandish claim!  You wouldn't even respect that I have been a member of this message board earlier than you, implying that I am just talking for someone. 



 

Updated On: 7/22/22 at 11:04 AM

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:09am

Let's agree to disagree, Dollypop. I did say that others may have appreciated him more but my own reaction is my honest view of what I saw ( I was close enough to see all the sweat forming on his forehead all the time). 

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:39am

jo said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!"

You started it with your outlandish claim! You wouldn't even respect that I have been a member of this message board earlier than you, implying that I am just talking for someone.



"

My “outlandish claim”? Starting with the fact that I didn’t say anything negatively about Hugh Jackman, you’ve got to chill. I don’t care how long you’ve been on this board.

We get it. You love Hugh. Put that aside for a second. Max Clayton was in the rehearsal room consistently, working with Warren, Warren’s associate choreographer, and Hugh when he was there. But when Hugh wasn’t there, Max was, building the material that would later be taught to Hugh. Both by Max and by Warren, etc. This isn’t a dig at Hugh; it’s a fact of working in the theatre, and especially working during the pandemic.

We can have a difference of opinion on whether Max was a successful Harold Hill (I found him almost overwhelmingly charming and lovely in the role from my one time seeing the show), but let’s not let our love of a performer cloud our rationality here. Or our sense of humor, for that matter.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:40am

jo said: "Let's agree to disagree, Dollypop. I did say that others may have appreciated him more but my own reaction is my honest view of what I saw ( I was close enough to see all the sweat forming on his forehead all the time)."

 

 

And we may have been at different performances.

 

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 12:12pm

ColorTheHours048 said: "jo said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!"

You started it with your outlandish claim! You wouldn't even respect that I have been a member of this message board earlier than you, implying that I am just talking for someone.



"

My “outlandish claim”? Starting with the fact that I didn’t say anything negatively about Hugh Jackman, you’ve got to chill. I don’t care how long you’ve been on this board.

We get it. You love Hugh. Put that aside for a second. Max Clayton was in the rehearsal room consistently, working with Warren, Warren’s associate choreographer, and Hugh when he was there. But when Hugh wasn’t there, Max was, building the material that would later be taught to Hugh. Both by Max and by Warren, etc. This isn’t a dig at Hugh; it’s a fact of working in the theatre, and especially working during the pandemic.

We can have a difference of opinion on whether Max was a successful Harold Hill (I found him almost overwhelmingly charming and lovely in the role from my one time seeing the show), but let’s not let our love of a performer cloud our rationality here. Or our sense of humor, for that matter."

 

Saying "a role that he built for Hugh Jackman to learn." was in a comic vein? What a weird sense of humor then?  

I don't like being talked down to - what love of a performer are you talking about? I admire Hugh Jackman's work but I do know what his strong and weak points are. But your generalization implies that he did not contribute anything substantial to the creation of a role ( such as how to interpret and act out  a role or how to interpret and sing  a song  - we are not talking of someone who is a newbie to the theatre ) was a dig at someone who is the name above the title. It offends my sense of fairness!

I respect other opinions or sharing of knowledge but when fact is being twisted (  because now you are saying that he did assist Warren/Asst- but that was just the dance element)... and not that he also assisted Jerry Zaks and Patrick Vaccariello  teaching Hugh how to act and how to sing) - is it unusual to react to your conclusion the way I did?

You were trying to talk down to me - by calling me "Hugh"  when I have established my bonafides on this board since 2003. How is that being respectful of your co-members?

You are entitled to your own appreciation of a performer's strengths or weaknesses but let us not conclude that when someone disagrees with you that the person is simply someone who "loves" the performer!

 

 

Updated On: 7/22/22 at 12:12 PM

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 12:20pm

Dollypop said: "jo said: "Let's agree to disagree, Dollypop. I did say that others may have appreciated him more but my own reaction is my honest view of what I saw ( I was close enough to see all the sweat forming on his forehead all the time)."


And we may have been at different performances.

"

I was at the performance when Max first filled in for Hugh.
 

Updated On: 7/22/22 at 12:20 PM

[spicemonkey]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 12:38pm

ColorTheHours048 said: "jo said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!"

You started it with your outlandish claim! You wouldn't even respect that I have been a member of this message board earlier than you, implying that I am just talking for someone.



"

My “outlandish claim”? Starting with the fact that I didn’t say anything negatively about Hugh Jackman, you’ve got to chill. I don’t care how long you’ve been on this board.

We get it. You love Hugh. Put that aside for a second. Max Clayton was in the rehearsal room consistently, working with Warren, Warren’s associate choreographer, and Hugh when he was there. But when Hugh wasn’t there, Max was, building the material that would later be taught to Hugh. Both by Max and by Warren, etc. This isn’t a dig at Hugh; it’s a fact of working in the theatre, and especially working during the pandemic.

We can have a difference of opinion on whether Max was a successful Harold Hill (I found him almost overwhelmingly charming and lovely in the role from my one time seeing the show), but let’s not let our love of a performer cloud our rationality here. Or our sense of humor, for that matter."

agreed most of this

jo should take some classes in critical thinking  LOL

and being on here since 2003 doesn't make one superior than others 

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 12:56pm

spicemonkey said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "jo said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Calm down, Hugh. Jeez!"

You started it with your outlandish claim! You wouldn't even respect that I have been a member of this message board earlier than you, implying that I am just talking for someone.



"

My “outlandish claim”? Starting with the fact that I didn’t say anything negatively about Hugh Jackman, you’ve got to chill. I don’t care how long you’ve been on this board.

We get it. You love Hugh. Put that aside for a second. Max Clayton was in the rehearsal room consistently, working with Warren, Warren’s associate choreographer, and Hugh when he was there. But when Hugh wasn’t there, Max was, building the material that would later be taught to Hugh. Both by Max and by Warren, etc. This isn’t a dig at Hugh; it’s a fact of working in the theatre, and especially working during the pandemic.

We can have a difference of opinion on whether Max was a successful Harold Hill (I found him almost overwhelmingly charming and lovely in the role from my one time seeing the show), but let’s not let our love of a performer cloud our rationality here. Or our sense of humor, for that matter."

agreed most of this

jo should take some classes in critical thinking LOL

and being on here since 2003 doesn't make one superior than others"

 

LOL - speaking of someone who prefers Max's acting over Hugh's!  

No need to get into another discussion with someone who posts only one-liners.

I did not assert being superior because of my tenure here - I only asked that I be respected as a member and not as someone he calls "Hugh".

 

Updated On: 7/22/22 at 12:56 PM

[jo]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 1:01pm

This thread was supposed to be on any forthcoming Original Broadway Cast Recording!

 

[Rentaholic2]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 5:39pm

jo said: "This thread was supposed to be on any forthcoming Original Broadway Cast Recording!"

And I refuse to believe no one on this site has any real intel! Someone who knows someone who’s in the cast better start spilling some tea, we will all be so impressed by your insider knowledge :)

 

[denali.fire]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 6:17pm

Nowhere near the Funny Girl threads

 

 

[Dollypop]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 10:42pm

jo said: "Dollypop said: "jo said: "Let's agree to disagree, Dollypop. I did say that others may have appreciated him more but my own reaction is my honest view of what I saw ( I was close enough to see all the sweat forming on his forehead all the time)."


And we may have been at different performances.

"

I was at the performance when Max first filled in for Hugh.

 

And I was at the Saturday matinee.  See what a few performances under his belt (and possibly notes from the creatives) can do?
"

 

[SueFB]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 10:51pm

Dollypop said: "The image on Hugh's chest is the artwork for the original 1962 movie version of THE MUSIC MAN and I believe the Wells Fargo Wagon he's standing in front of is at the Carriage House in Stony Brook (LI) NY"

It's actually at the Wells Fargo Office on East 42nd Street. 

https://www.spottedbylocals.com/newyork/wells-fargo-ny-office/

It seems like Hugh was in the building paying a visit to the Australian Consulate which is located at the same address. 

 

[SueFB]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 10:55pm

ColorTheHours048 said: "mamaleh said: "I cannot comment on Max Clayton's Harold Hill, as I did not see the show with him in that role. I appreciate that many of his fans applauded his portrayal. However, I did see him twice cover for Remy Auberjonois in the Charlie Cowell role. I much preferred Remy. Mr. Clayton raced through his lines and did not convey anywhere near the apoplectic anger and malice conjured so deliciously by Remy. Whether those were Mr. Clayton's choices or the director's I do not know."

This probably has more to do with the fact that Charlie isn’t actually a role he covers and he probably learned the track that day or over the course of a couple quick rehearsals. Standbys for a lead role never cover other roles, but we’ve now seen Max cover Charlie and Marcellus, likely due to COVID illnesses requiring all swings in deck. Highly unusual circumstance and hardly indicative of how he handled a role that he built for Hugh Jackman to learn."

Max has been listed in the Playbill as covering Harold Hill, Marcellus, and Charlie Cowell since at least opening night. 

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 7/22/22 at 11:13pm

SueFB said: "Max has been listed in the Playbill as covering Harold Hill, Marcellus, and Charlie Cowell since at least opening night."

I stand corrected in that case. It’s still an unusual situation to have a principal standby covering other principal roles, and again probably comes down to the unusual nature of COVID protocols.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 1:20am

Pretty sure the cast did record on Monday 7/25 indicated by photos on the Instagram stories of ensemble members Kayla LaVine and Nick Alvino.

Updated On: 7/26/22 at 01:20 AM

[jo]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 1:42am

Thanks! Checked them out.

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 1:51am

They just appear to be on a stage and not in a studio, but there are microphones and headsets and they’re both hinting that it was a special day. What else could it be?

[jo]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 2:09am

And there is the tag @MusicManBway 

[Rentaholic2]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 6:38am

Not sure if this is legit:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SpeakeAbbi/status/1551634380593971200

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 7/26/22 at 11:35am

I think that's the same space the On the Town revival recorded their cast album. Manhattan Center Studios. It's not a traditional recording studio.