Musicals and masculinity- Page 3

[London Boy]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 7:52am

hahaha

If a bird's favourite film is Bridget Jones, she doesn't deserve your attention. What you need is a bird who loves football, Drinks pints of lager, thinks Die Hard is the greatest film ever made, and still looks good bending over in a bikini

[London Boy]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 7:53am

hahaha

If a bird's favourite film is Bridget Jones, she doesn't deserve your attention. What you need is a bird who loves football, Drinks pints of lager, thinks Die Hard is the greatest film ever made, and still looks good bending over in a bikini

[bwaylvsong]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 12:35pm

I am straight, and I love musicals. I also happen to dislike sports. The only thing that keeps me somewhat out of the stereotype is disliking shopping even more than sports. Anyway, in Junior High, I was teased by almost everyone who knew me, but not harassed. Now that I go to a performing arts High School, people are teased for NOT liking musicals.

[AngusN]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 3:26pm

London Boy, it appears that you are trying extremely hard to assert that you are straight by using such terms as 'bird' and 'geezer' when referring to men and women. You are annoyed that people assume that you are gay just because you enjoy musical theatre. How do you think the women that you are referring to as 'birds' feel? I know you are from London, but to me it seems that you are trying too hard to prove you are a straight 'geezer'.
Updated On: 9/6/05 at 03:26 PM

[musicnmath]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 5:35pm

As far as im concerned, guys are way better when cultured.
here, here!!!

Yesterday, my boyfriend and I were talking about funny words...which led to talking about "Schadenfreude"...which led to me explaining the definition by singing a few examples...which then required me to explain the whole show. :) It's about seizing that opportunity, right?

He's not up on MT yet...but he's not uninterested. Before he knew me, he took an acting class just for fun, so that shows potential! He is a movie buff though...so I'm using the cross-over to my advantage: he is being educated on RENT so he's prepared to accompany me 11/23 :)

"...have yet to find a girl who goes nuts over the MT guys. but ill stay on the lookout.
do! we're out there :)

I'm a girl who loves math...so that confuses people too. Quality friends find the contrasts endearing.

[MTVMANN]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 5:39pm

Well, I embrace the whole gay and musical thing. If you have a bunch of straight guys or closet cases at auditons you can really syke them up, and build your own ego up because this is YOUR territory!

[WickedOne2]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 5:49pm

My boyfriend is the straightest guy you will ever meet and he loves Broadway musicals -- although there are certain ones he won't see (i.e. Chicago, Thoroughly Modern Millie, Sweet Charity) which I have to take my mom or a girlfriend to see instead. Wicked and Rent are his favorites.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 6:05pm

MTVMANN--are you freaking serious?? That's sad.

[Whiteguy2088]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 6:26pm

Here here to the straight men who love musicals. I get it all the time dont worry. My friends are like only girls or gay theatre freaks like musicals...But its cool. Like when Lion King came to Orange County and I dished out big bucks to see it three times I got a lotta crap for it. And also Wicked etc. But - Enjoying musical theatre got me a 12 on my SAT essay because I talked about how a show like The Full Monty may seem like rubbish and sexual comedy alone - I said it is emotionally enthralling and delivers a great message. So loving theatre again gets another point :)

[London Boy]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 6:46pm

"it appears that you are trying extremely hard to assert that you are straight by using such terms as 'bird' and 'geezer'"

That's the way i speak, and have spoken since i was 14/15 years old. It has nothing to do with masculinity, more with vinacular.

"How do you think the women that you are referring to as 'birds' feel?"

A word such as 'birds' is merely a slang term, much like 'bloke' is. It is not used in a derogatory manner in any way, shape, or form, by anyone - in the same way as 'bloke' is not derogatory in any way.

[London Boy]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 6:46pm

"it appears that you are trying extremely hard to assert that you are straight by using such terms as 'bird' and 'geezer'"

That's the way i speak, and have spoken since i was 14/15 years old. It has nothing to do with masculinity, more with vinacular.

"How do you think the women that you are referring to as 'birds' feel?"

A word such as 'birds' is merely a slang term, much like 'bloke' is. It is not used in a derogatory manner in any way, shape, or form, by anyone - in the same way as 'bloke' is not derogatory in any way.

[toodramatic]

Posted: 9/6/05 at 6:48pm

Perhaps if everyone stopped caring whether musicals are masculine the stereotypes would disappear...so what if people make fun of you for liking them? My guy friends make fun of me for liking theatre all the time... and then ill just make fun of them for one of their femine qualities. GUYS JOKE AROUND ALOT. It's one of the many things that make us superior to women.

:)

[MTVMANN]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 1:04am

jrb_actor, it's not sad! Straight people get the entire rest of the world, so why not embrace being gay and being in the theatre, especially musical theatre!

[Fosse76]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 10:55am

I just love the implication that gay men are essentially women, by the insinuation that gay men are not masculine.

[musicnmath]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 12:15pm

Fosse - I think there's a general lack of consensus on what "masculinity" means that leads to such broad statement.

Try discussing "feminism" with any group of people. yikes. Not exactly comparable, but the general idea is there...

[kasim]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 12:18pm

Yeah guys make fun of you, and so do some girls but ask me if i care?? But most girls love it :)

I dont really think it effects my masculinity though.

Although i think some girls get scared when you know more than them :) tee hee


But its the same stupid stereotype that men who can dress arent any less masculine

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 12:26pm

And, I don't think my being gay means I can't be masculine.

mtvmann--sorry, I don't see the world that way. I choose to claim those parts of life I want whether they be "straight" or "gay". And, I would NEVER walk into an audition thinking I was superior to the straight guys in the room. That's just unfathomable to me.

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 4:25pm

I think perhaps many people in the gay community may "act" more feminine or more macho than they really are because of stereotypes and the images of gays in culture in the past. That's not to say that I don't think that there are gay men who are both feminine and masculine, but I think it's sort of similiar in the black community with images of rappers and whatnot that people feel they have to be a certain way.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 9/7/05 at 11:51pm

Yep. There is pressure from some in the gay community to strive for levels of masculinity that aren't even practical for straight men.

Updated On: 9/7/05 at 11:51 PM

[toodramatic]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:00am

When I called theatre 'femine' I was generalizing. I don't care if people call theatre femine.' You know ehy? Because I'm comfortable with my masculinity. If your getting yourself all worked up because I called theatre femine maybe you should ask yourself why your so insecure?

[Urban]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:42am

I suppose it can be argued that I am gay and a musical lover thus I am a cliché - of course that ignores the fact I am a huge jock and love sport. Huge huge football fan. I can talk about college football for hours talking about inane things as X coach or Y QB and who will finish on top of the Pac 10 ladder.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:43am

Is it wrong that i misread Jock and wondred what the relevence was?

[Urban]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:50am

*snickers*

[COOOOLkid]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:52am

LOL

[COOOOLkid]

Posted: 9/8/05 at 12:52am

LOL