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#1

My first Emo musical (spoilers!)

So... Spring Awakening.

I've listened to the cd and didn't mind it- some tracks were quite dramatic, so I went to the show with an open mind...

The piece itself is problematical- maybe it's the source material- but overall it has a big so-what? factor. What is the point? If it's that kids were repressed back then, that's hardly news, and why does it warrant the rock score? If it's a universal that this is how kids feel even now, that's nonsense- I don't believe the scenario could occur now when sexual mores and freedom of information are so different. There is also the big muddle of sympathy: maybe Wendla is an innocent, but Melchior knows what he is doing, so this is no Romeo & Juliet tragedy, but selfishness leading to some remorse and blaming of others. The other sub-plots are generally under-developed, though Moritz's plight does stir sympathy. Overall, though, plot-wise this is 2 hours of rambling wound-licking.

Now the staging. Oh lord have mercy. For those naives who think that it is ground-breaking, just try attending Fringe theatre for the last 30 years! There is nothing new going on here, from the studio-style set design, to the awkward character freezes, (how 1st-year devised drama task is that?), to the direct address and hand-held mic aesthetic- all so old hat. I very much enjoyed Home at the End of the World, but as a theatre director Michael Mayer seems woefully immature: what the hell was the point of that moving chair on the wall? it's just silly and ultimately distracting. The I Don't Do Sadness scene is severely limited in its emotional impact by having the actors play straight out front from the mic stands. Overall, far too many moments were sense is sacrificed to style or worse, gimmick.

The lighting was a strange affair, too. Whilst the focus is superb, with some very clever rigging to get the angle on some of the specials, many of the cues seemed self-conscious, (and badly cued/ operated too at the performance I saw). I really don't think the neon works either- the problem is that it takes time to pre-heat, so you can't get genuine snap lighting cues. As a result, the neons judder on whenever a big number starts up, and the device becomes predictable, boring and clumsy. (Incidentally, architectural tubes can be dimmed and can snap on far more effectively).

Now the performances: well, this is the sad thing, because the cast was absolutely giving its all- even with only around 300 people in- and the lad playing Herr Stiefel, (Rheon something) was utterly compelling. Some of the voices were not quite up to it, but by and large the attack of the performers was stunning, (I particularly loved one of the swings, playing Anna). Such a shame they are flogging a dead horse.

The audience response was polite but not ecstatic. The buzz coming out of the auditorium was zero.

Whilst it's great that a show can have ambition, this one is a serious case of style over substance, (with the style being rater irritating). I fully appreciate that the show isn't targetted at my generation, but I like to think my tastes are quite diverse and even if something's not my cup of tea I can recognize its virtues. 'Spring Awakening' though, left me disappointed that such a talented young cast had to contend with such a muddled production.

#2

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I could not agree more.

I thought i was the only one who thought the whole thing was over hyped.
Dont get me wrong, some of the score is good but it does get very repetitive. The story i found lazy and didn't really form an emotional attachment with anyone.
And you are so right about seeing this kinda staging throughout the fringe circuit..

I guess this play is more for tweens and not someone 30 like me.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#3

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I couldn't disagree more with what you say. I found SA to be one of the most dramatically compelling things I've ever seen on stage - one of the few times I have ever been genuinely moved emotionally by a show. Also, I do believe it is universal and timeless. There are layers upon layers of sub-text in the book and lyrics. And Duncan Sheik's score blows me away every single time I listen to it.

But, of course, there are bound to be people, just like you, who did not like it as much as I did. All I know is that I loved it eacxh of the 3 times I've seen it (New York, Hammersmith and West End) and I can't wait to see it again. And as for it only appealing to teensd - it's forty years since I was a teen!
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#4

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Well I remember how I was incensed by the hype this got on Broadway. i put it on here and almost got Bet Lynched.
Devonian, once again, hits it on the head.
#5

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I just think the book is all over the place, and whilst some of the score is great and on my ipod much of it becomes repetitive, especially in act 2
I didnt really feel like i was naturally been made to feel anything by the story, i more felt like i was been forced to feel something...and i didn't.

Of course this show will have its fans, and i didn't not enjoy it, i just thought it was OK.

As a rock (type) musical i dont think it comes close to Rent, Hair or the new and stunning Next To Normal
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#7

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I didn't like the show at all when I saw it a couple of years ago. I agree that there is nothing ground-breaking happening on stage. The score has a couple of good songs, but it failed to move me emotionally. And the finale was a big "WTF"? My partner and I turned and looked at each other and couldn't stop laughing. Ironically, I thought the choreography was the best thing about the show.
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#8

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Very interesting posts.

I'm seeing it Saturday (along with Jersey Boys at last)

I'll reserve judgement 'til then.
#9

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"the finale was a big "WTF"?"

"The Song Of Purple Summer", which is the finale, is probably one of the most mind-blowingly beautiful and powerful songs I've ever heard. I get goosebumps every time I listen to it. It's a stunning piece of writing.
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#10

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I absolutely love the score , with the one exception of 'The song of purple summer' which i don't quite consider a big wtf, but i don't think it's anywhere near as good as anything that precedes it, and certainly not a worthy ending.

The show itself kinda left me feeling a bit dissapointed, though there were some things i really liked, particularly some of the choreography, and the great cast.
#11

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"The Song Of Purple Summer", which is the finale, is probably one of the most mind-blowingly beautiful and powerful songs I've ever heard.

I'm genuinely happy it moved you in such a way. I just found it a hugely underwhelming finale and I had no idea what a purple summer was, much less know the wonder of it. Basically, it boiled down to "things will do stuff and we will know the wonder of a purple summer". And yeah, I know there's a little more to the song than that (very little), but at the time, in my first viewing of the show, yes, it was a huge WTF moment. It wasn't the worst show I've ever seen, but it was in the bottom three perhaps, of musicals I've seen on Broadway.
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#12

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I don't think anyone needs to know what a purple summer is or to have known the wonders of it to be able to enjoy Sheik's gorgeous melody and harmonies in the song. I guess it just depends on what an individual listener finds touching and uplifting.

It's clear that SA has created very divided opinions about its relative merits as a show. Some like Mister Matt rate it in the bottom 3 shows they've seen on Broadway while I place it solidly in the top ten shows I've seen on Broadway or anywhere else in over 40 years of going to the theatre (and I am in total awe of the depth of genius in Sater and Sheik's writing). But that's part of what makes theatre exciting - everyone reacts differently to it.
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#13

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I am a past lurker and I have seen most of the current offerings in the West End . I feel concerned thet the board Mafia's opinions on this show may deter people from giving this show a chance .

I have seen the show twice, once in New York last year and once in Hammersmith. I enjoyed New York, but the Hammersmith performance was so much better .

Im not young by any chance but this show is what good theatre is about .

Sod Priscilla ,a juke box musical ,which is a good gay night out.Yes I have seen it !

Spring awakening is the best thing I have seen since Rent ( New York NOT remixed )

Just my opinion .
#14

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there is no board mafia its peoples opinions discussing a musical, thats what this board is about.

I could also say that the positive opinions of people who have just joined to say how great it is could sway people to see it even though i think its a lackluster show...but that would be silly.

Its all opinion, and i have huge respect for people like bob who love the show, thats why its been discussed without anything nasty being meant.

people who love it are right, people who did not are right, snooty remarks about the 'board mafia' etc are wrong.
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#15

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I personally love this show! I don't know why I love it, I just do!=) Also, I'm probably in their target audience which helps haha. I've listened to the OBC, and I really think the show comes across a lot better live, and with this cast, some of the songs on the OBC, to me, sound like the people singing it don't really care, and some of the dialogue in it sounds like they are completely bored.
Also, people keep complaining about jukebox musicals and revivals...I know this is a transfer, but it's still new!

Just my thoughts =)
#16

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I have to agree, its great that a fresh original (ish, it is based on a book) musical is open in London, i hope it has a good run.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#17

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Excuse me Mr Lurker, why am I meant to be a member of the Mafia for not liking this show?

You may wish to note that

a) I have not criticized anybody in this thread for disagreeing with my review.

b) If you look further you will notice that I haven't posted comment on Priscilla- I haven't seen it and am not overly keen to be honest, (I didn't like the film much)

You may wish to moderate the insulting language when you next appear.
#19

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Did you somehow find my review of Spring Awakening when I first saw it on Broadway about a month after opening? I swear, it seems like all my exact thoughts. Should I charge you with plagiarism? LOL
I too walked out when it was over saying, "What's Groundbreaking?" and "So what?"
And I still remember overhearing on the exit from another theatre goer "It's just like Rent, but louder and with period costumes".

#21

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devonian t - they aren't accusing you of being in the Mafia! lol. Have you never heard that phrase? Like "the gay mafia" or "the taffia" (aka the welsh mafia)for a group of influential/prevalent people who can seem to outsiders (rightly or wrongly) to seem to 'run' an area, and who can seen to be set in their ways/difficult to break into/distrustful of outsiders/newcomers...
eg. I didn't get that job 'cos it was totally run by the gay mafia and they fancied that pretty boy....

have to say, its not a bad summation of many regulars on forums - not necessarily this one, although I do get quite downhearted at the lack of reply or response that 'outsider's' messages can get unless their seen as something to be jumped on...
#22

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I understand the metaphorical use of the term, but I just don't see how it applies. I don't like to argue in generalities, so I don't really know what to say about irregular posters' comments not getting much response. I think we all sometimes write stuff which doesn't spark interest-my comments on Amour went largely unnoticed last week. I don't think it means people are being hostile.

Patash, you know I hang on your every word, and that review is seared into my very soul :)

Either that or it's a case of great minds thinking alike!

Oh, and one more thing: anyone who thinks that this little forum will have any influence on audience attendances for any show is surely over-estimating our clout???
#23

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lololol i know because i didn't think the show was great the sales will plummet and they will announce closure
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#24

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devon - you summed up my exact thoughts about that show. I thought the show did the source material no justice at all. It ranks one of the worst musicals I've ever had the misfortune to see - and I think I'm within their target audience too :P

And I scarcely think a little slamming of Spring in this forum can reverse people's opinions on the show, not especially if they had 2 plus years of unadulterated hurrahs from Broadway audiences (thoroughly undeserved of course :S)
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#25

What's Emo?

I don't think there's any board mafia here. We all agree and disagree with each other all the time, and in a very civilised way compared to other sites. I'm about to disagree with some posters whose opinions I respect the most.

I saw Spring Awakening yesterday and was stunned by it. I'd heard the CD, and like a couple of others here had mixed feelings. I was left with no doubts after yesterday evening's performance. This is an intense, challenging and sometimes disturbing musical. It asks difficult questions and does not provide easy answers. I now find I need to pay more attention to the score to understand the subtleties and subtexts that I hadn't picked up on. And maybe this musical does not speak to a secular society not bound up by self-righteous and self-serving organised religion but as someone who, like my pseudonym, has had to wrestle with a personal conflict between body and soul it certainly spoke to me.

Aneurin Barnard wasn't on last night, but if he's as good as Charlotte Wakefield and Iwan Rheon (look at the fear and pain in this guy's eyes) then I'm sorry I missed him. Lucy Barker brought an out-of-it desperation to Ilse that put me in mind of another institutionalised teen I'd seen portrayed by Emma Wilcox in Dog Sees God recently.

And a special mention of Richard Southgate on as Hanschen, the gay sexual predator who knows how to make the system work to his advantage. I was so impressed to see a gay character in a musical portrayed as the one most likely to succeed, particularly after the tired portrayal of a gay man in Jersey Boys, which I saw earlier in the day. Also full credit to the producers for casting "real" voluptuous women in the show.

I can see some of the points the professionals amongst us make about this show but to me this musical is so much more than the sum of its parts. And that's why I was moved, exhilerated and on my feet at the curtain call.

I even bought myself a Totally F*CKed magnet to greet me next to my bathroom mirror each morning. What's Emo?

Updated On: 4/26/09 at 02:22 PM

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