Posted: 12/7/06 at 10:50pm
NY Times Article on Ups & Downs of Taking Children to B'way Shows — Page 2
Posted: 12/7/06 at 10:55pm
Posted: 12/7/06 at 10:55pm
I am a single mother of a 3 year old and I enjoy going to the theater and would not hesitate to bring my son along, only because I know he would be well-behaved and enjoy himself (at the right show of course).
I would not do this however, because I am a very BROKE single mother and would not pay 110 dollars, or even a discounted amount, for my son to basically get the same pleasure he gets from watching a DVD...now in 3 or 4 years, it may be different. But at 3...not worth it.
Posted: 12/7/06 at 11:00pm
Posted: 12/7/06 at 11:33pm
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:30am
like you, my parents started me young as a theater-goer. however, (and i bet also like you), my parents made sure that i understood what was expected of me in the situation, and acted swiftly if i even verged on becoming an annoyance to the people around me.
in my experience, parents today are CLUELESS compared to a generation ago. (im still young, and a pretty progressive thinker, so i promise this is not a grandpa simson back-in-my-day tirade) forget not knowing how to discipline their children, parents are so innured to their offspring's bad behavior that they're not even aware of it when it's occurring. sadly, this is the exception and not the rule.
theaters, movies, restaurants ... they all want to be their kids' buddies, not their parents.
i think your faith in modern parenting skills is woefully misplaced, and theater management has an obligation to the *adults* who've forked out 110 bucks a seat to set and enforce some groundrules.
honestly, im sick of having my theater experiences comrpomised by rude PARENTS (because, really, it's not a little tyke's fault if no one's ever taught them better).
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:30am
As for those that were young and were taken by their parents, great for you, but I don't have the type of money to take a kid to a show at that age when a $10 movie ticket would work just as well for him/her. I definitely agree with starting your kid off with a smaller production (not to mention cheaper). Personally, I don't think I'd want to take a kid to a Broadway show unless he was older than 8-10 years old. Under that I think is too young to truly appreciate it.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:32am
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:39am
As far as breast-feeding, I agree with orangeskittles. I'm fine with it in public, but in theatre, that's really not appropiate.
Nevertheless, the prospect of a tantrum is real, and a plan must be hatched. The Agnews discussed a one-parent/one-child split at intermission if Harris, the 3-year-old, became restless.
Smart people, not perfect, could have gotten a sitter or something, but very smart.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 1:18am
$110 to you is different than $110 to a family living in Manhattan. Don't assume everyone has the same income.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 12/8/06 at 01:18 AM
Posted: 12/8/06 at 1:25am
I'm sure the reason not all theaters have rules regarding age for entry has to do with the fact that up until recently, no one would even think to bring their two year old to a show. You can't tell me that a parent is trying to introduce a two year to art and theater - to me, that is pure laziness on the parents part. I can fully understand taking a five year old to a show catered to children. As someone who works with pre-school aged kids on a daily basis, I have full confidence that there are many who would be able to handle a show. Have you ever seen the way kids are completely entranced by television? It takes a great deal of work to get them to tear their eyes away.
I'm all for educating children in theater at an early age, however, I just don't see the point in bringing a child younger than five, give or take a year depending on maturity level. There's no way they'd remember it anyway, so as others have said, why not just stay at home and pop in a DVD?
Updated On: 12/8/06 at 01:25 AM
Posted: 12/8/06 at 10:35am
They may do that, but legally speaking they can't. It's called theft. The worst case scenario they can do is call the police and have the police confiscate the camera.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 11:48am
The link is below with a picture from the Hansel & Gretel I'm working on at the LA Opera.
Same kind of story
Posted: 12/8/06 at 11:58am
Posted: 12/8/06 at 11:58am
Margo - I see where you're coming from, but it's obvious you were the exception and unfortunately not the rule. I, too, experienced, theatre, opera and ballet at a young age, and remember a lot of those early experiences. I was totally captivated, and couldn't wait for the next one to come along.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:01pm
That being said, my parents also took me to a lot of stuff when I was a kid, and I'm thankful that they did. They still laugh at bringing me to a Sarah Brightman concert when I was about 10, during which I slept through the entire "Cats" portion of the show. But at least I wasn't disturbing anyone.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:03pm
I can say recently when I saw the Grinch, it was the parents that upset me. The kids I expected to be kids. But the parents were too busy talking to other parents to notice there kids were running around the theater, etc. (This was beforehand not during the show).
BroadwayBoobs: I'll give all of you who weren't there a hint of who took the pictures ...it rhymes with shameless
SOMMS: I knew it was Tink!
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:03pm
I think whatever2 hit the nail on the head here: "parents spend the money because they have it and they need to keep up with the joneses."
There are a lot of very wealthy people in NYC to whom a $250 theatre ticket is a drop in the bucket. They spend the money so they can say that their entitled little angels have seen every Disney show on Broadway before the age of 3. And from Disney's side of it, they are making big $ by marketing their shows as "family entertainment." If families are told they can't bring their 2-year-old, they might not come at all, and Disney loses those ticket sales.
I only hope that the diaper set doesn't start encroching on "adult" shows, and parents who feel they must bring the baby to the theater stick to Disney shows.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:06pm
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:22pm
Oh I completely agree. It all depends on the individual child, and it is up to the parents to know what their child is capable of. But to FrontRowCenter's point, too often parents just don't realize or care that their child's bad behavior is affecting other people.
Thankfully it's never happened to me at a Broadway show, but several times I've been in movies where a child is allowed to talk or cry throughout the movie until someone in the audience finally yells at the parent to take the kid out. With young children it's often impossible to know how they will react to a situation until they are in it, but if they react badly it's the parents' responsibility to just cut their losses and leave.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:27pm
Then why aren't they being taken to the theatre?
Posted: 12/8/06 at 12:47pm
Oh- so those twins were apparently in Look Book in New York Magazine back when they were 9 months old, and this has got to be the best. 'interview'. ever. with their mother- I can't decided which quote is my fav, it's either:
"For example, I’m a vegetarian, but I’ll wear leather because it could be killed for meat. Therefore, I’m being an environmentalist." or
"I constantly see kids dressed casual, and I just feel that if I teach my kids to be casual, then fashion will die. And I’m not going to let that happen on my watch!"
I would have thought I was reading The Onion if I didn't know this was a real publication- totally worth the read.
article- "If I teach my kids to be casual, then fashion will die."
Updated On: 12/8/06 at 12:47 PM
Posted: 12/8/06 at 1:16pm
Oy. Vey. I really don't know what else to say about that. Children are the latest NYC fashion accessory, and it's kind of sad.
Posted: 12/8/06 at 1:16pm
Even better quote:
"And I love fur, but I buy mine at the flea market and only if it’s 50 years old, because 50 years ago we were not familiar with the way they kill animals."
Wanting life but never knowing how
Posted: 12/8/06 at 3:43pm
EDIT: I also forgot to mention the scores of people who entered after the show began. And did I mention the teen guy next to me who was late, who was bored, and who text messaged for most of the performance? (grrrrrr!!)
Updated On: 12/8/06 at 03:43 PM
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