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#1

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I think Maya Phillips might need to take a class on how to use a computer.

The last 2 paragraphs of her Cost Of Living review contained excerpts from her journal, and it seems to be happening again in her newest review of I’m Revolting.

I thought her job was reviewing plays, not sharing her personal life with readers.

#2

NY Times theater reviews

I have disagreed with Maya Philips MANY times. But, going after her for relaying an emotional response she had to a play or the shortcomings of a play due to the opportunities she knows they missed is a strange hill to die on.

#3

NY Times theater reviews

Jesse Green loves to bring up his children, his grandparents, his childhood, etc in his reviews, and yet you don't seem to have a problem with that. Hmm, wonder why?

#4

NY Times theater reviews

She offered a personal example of what might have been in the play. I don't see anything wrong with that and it is better than some vague unrelatable comparison.

Updated On: 10/6/22 at 12:22 PM

#5

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Art is literally subjective, so each person's lived experience will always play into their perception of a piece of work. Critics don't have a switch they flip to make them into a human typewriter void of life the minute they step into a theater.

#6

NY Times theater reviews

"Jesse Green loves to bring up his children, his grandparents, his childhood, etc in his reviews, and yet you don't seem to have a problem with that. Hmm, wonder why?"

I don't know what you're implying - why don't you say it?

As for Jesse Green, I have lots of problems with him - but I didn't read 2 of his journal entries this week so I didn't include him in my thought.

#7

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RUkiddingme said: "I don't know what you're implying - why don't you say it?

As for Jesse Green, I have lots of problems with him - but I didn't read 2 of his journal entries this week so I didn't include him in my thought.
"

I (and I suspect others) am (are) having trouble understanding what is at the root of your issue here, and I am not implying anything at all. (I cannot speak for LarryD2.) We do not all like the same things in a critic so perhaps it's just a matter of you being allergic to this one. For me, I like critics who (a) write well, (b) have something interesting to say more often than not, and (c) share as much as they can about themselves as they are willing, because that's the best way I know of to get a sense of whether they are a critic to whose opinions I can relate. Maya Philips checks those boxes for me but YMMV. We don't all have to like the same theatre (because it's subjective) but what are you looking to get from a critic if you don't know where they are coming from? It sounds like maybe you prefer to learn about the theatre from a reporter rather than a critic. That, of course, is your prerogative. We also don't all have to like the same critics and it would be bizarre if we did.

#8

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Replying to HogansHero

I read 4 reviews last week with Maya's name on them.

I didn't criticize 2 of them because they were well written reviews. As a theater critic, I think she did her job. Weather I agree with her or not is not relevant.

I do criticize the other 2 reviews because she made them about her life and that's not her job. Her job is to critique the show.. If she wants to talk about her neighbor's health, there's probably a support group she could join. I don't think it's relevant to the art she is reviewing.

Cut those final 2 paragraphs and she would have 4 good writing samples for the week.

#9

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I think what I (and possibly others) am maybe perceiving as a glib tone is why we are not understanding you? Quite honestly, I found myself immediately empathizing with her reaction to Cost of Living, and her writing that made me want to see the show more.
I also agree with Hogan above that I enjoy when a critic gives me context for why the felt the way they did about a piece. Because (all together now) art is subjective. I appreciate the bigger picture around someone’s thoughts.
But, alas, we are just strangers on the internet. So, who’s to say? What works for me clearly doesn’t work for you, and that’s okay!


I could use a prince to save me from my prince.

Updated On: 10/6/22 at 10:10 PM

#10

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RUkiddingme said: "Cut those final 2 paragraphs and she would have 4 good writing samples for the week."

If the NYT is hiring editors, it sounds like you think you have a meaningful contribution to make.

#11

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It would be dishonest for a critic to present themself as unbiased. The more we embrace the fact that art criticism is just 1 person’s opinion — and that their opinion is informed by their experiences — the more useful it actually is. Because then the critic can draw the line in the sand between their critical assessment and their personal baggage. Pretending the personal baggage doesn’t exist will only blur that line, forcing the readers to resort to guess-work to find it themselves.

#12

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Isn't one of the main aspirations of Theatre to move audiences, to have an emotional effect on them? That's how I've always understood it; more to the point, the best art I've experienced in a theatre has connected with my personal experiences, further connecting me with the material. That, in turn, helped establish the merits of what I saw on stage.

If you want a critic to eschew all of that, and everything that goes with it, then it seems you want a purely analytical recounting of the production -- and that's an incomplete assessment, at best. And which is it? You liked 2 reviews because they were "well written", but not the other 2 because they were too personal; one is structural, the other subjective, and neither comparable.

#13

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RUkiddingme said: "she made them about her life and that's not her job. "

Or is it? A fair number of us here clearly think that it is. As I said, you don't have to think so, and you can go look for someone that just gives you just the facts, ma'am.

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