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Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?

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binau
#25re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 3:52pm

Is the 'reconciliation' scene "I am the one (reprise)"?

If so, is it really a 'reconciliation' scene? I mean the dead son has moved on from 'haunting' Alice to his father..I know there is that little moment "hi Dad" thing but I thought this scene was a kind of 'creepy' ambiguous cliffhanger. (I'm more than willing to accept I've got it completely wrong though lol).

If the son were alive of course the scene would read differently.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

After Eight
#26re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 4:07pm

POSSIBLE SPOILER:






Yes, that's the scene I mean. I took it to mean that the father was ready to stop trying to shut out the memory of his son from his consciousness, and that his son was grateful.

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binau
#27re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 4:32pm

I suppose that is a kind of 'reconciliation'. Cool.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

KirbyCat
#28re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 4:38pm

Huh. I took it as he's been seeing Gabe for all this time, but has covered his emotions until he is weakened by Diana's leaving him.

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DRSisLove
#29re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 4:59pm

I haven't seen Kyle, but I saw Aaron and Tim (understudy), and I must say, Tim was a million times better than Aaron. His singing was fantastic, his acting was less creepy, and more caring, and he actually looked like an 18 year old...

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steven22
#30re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 5:54pm

i really want to "hear" tim in the role..yet nothing seems to be on thattt site!

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Elphaba3
#31re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 6:09pm

I like Aaron's creepiness in the role. Tim was good enough and better vocally than Kyle, but overall he's my least favorite of the three. I am glad I've seen all three actors who have played Gabe. None of them were bad.

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mywonderwa11
#32re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/24/09 at 8:58pm

I've seen both Aaron and Kyle and when I saw Kyle it was like I was just watching an actor copy everything the original actor did. I'm sure he was probably directed that way...but, he wasn't by any means bad.

I prefer Aaron.


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defygravity24
#33re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/25/09 at 11:07pm

I think in the reprise of "I am the one" Dan and Gabe reconcile because it's a heart-felt scene. They're crying so it's not supposed to be like Gabe is haunting Dan.

Harpz2006
#34re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/25/09 at 11:11pm

Yeah, I don't think Gabe is haunting Dan... just that Dan is acknowledging the loss that has been haunting him and finally accepting that it will always be with him.

AwesomeDanny
#35re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/25/09 at 11:17pm

Well, Brian Yorkey said that he and Michael Greif both have different interpretations of this moment, so either could be right, but I think it makes more sense to me that Dan has always seen Gabe but was denying it.

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Rudy2
#36re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/26/09 at 3:41am

I saw Tim and he was absolutely wonderful.


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cglaid
#37re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/26/09 at 10:46am

I saw Next to Normal for the first time last night and while I was initially a little disappointed that there was an understudy for Gabe, Tim Young was fantastic! I think he had a little trouble hitting the high notes but overall he was just a delight. I also thought he resembled Alice quite a bit.

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THDavis
#38re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/26/09 at 2:16pm

I think it's probably not easy to be both an understudy for Gabe and Henry because while neither of them get extremely high or low, I feel that Gabe is definitely more of a tenor and Henry a baritone-bass (though he does hit the higher notes beautifully.) Not saying it's very difficult but it definitely reduces the size of candidates. You know, out of the millions re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?


"I love them both but you've got to admit that Alice pronounces things really strangely when she sings."

But Alice Ripley is a great actress and when she pushes the envelope and moves into the line between acting and overacting it's okay, it's her character. When Aaron pushes it there it doesn't really make sense and makes me feel awkward. He's a good performer but I feel people talk him up too much.

teka21
#39re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/27/09 at 1:32pm

Spoiler:




Really, growing-up Gabe is Diana's imaginary character, he is not his own person. Since he is her delusion, it makes sense that Gabe is also over the top- he has grabbed onto her mind and won't let go.

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THDavis
#40re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/27/09 at 7:42pm

I suppose that'd make sense. I guess I just still have a hard time sitting through his performance though.

NicAllen
#41re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/28/09 at 2:32pm

I would have to go with Kyle. There was just something about Kyle that I really liked. I don't know what it was. Sure, he definitely plays Gabe a lot softer and "nicer" than Aaron's, but I think it fits a lot better. Aaron plays the role with a lot of "hostility", which really doesn't fit in at the end with the reconciliation. (In my opinion)

froggy2
#42re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/29/09 at 3:45am

I love the harsher, more sinister way Tveit plays Gabe because it really drives home the symbolism for me on what Diana seeing him really means for her and the family. Yeah okay, he was her son, but his continued presence in her life IS evil, and I like how it's represented as such.

I suppose if a person takes the more literal approach in thinking Gabe is an actual ghost then they'd prefer a more subtle, softer representation of the character, and maybe then go with Tim or Kyle over Tveit. Fair enough.

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THDavis
#43re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/29/09 at 11:19am

He's a strange antagonist in the show really, because you're torn between wanting Diana to have him and knowing that he'll destroy her. That's something Alice is magnificent at. Tveit didn't have the energy or chemistry to really control the show and I found the chemistry between him and Alice awkward. Maybe it's because I didn't even pick up on the sexual connotations more than once but I also feel that he just didn't have the presence to control a scene like Bobby or Alice.

teka21
#44re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/29/09 at 12:22pm

spoiler:

In the reconciliation scene, Gabe is not Diana's imaginary Gabe, he becomes Dan's vision of the son he lost. Dan and Diana had their own versions of denial of that tragedy- Diana's son has never died, Dan has banished Gabe's existence in order to cope with the loss. In the end, they both must confront the damage done by that continued denial- to themselves, and to Natalie.

Maceman91
#45re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/29/09 at 12:40pm

Question: How tall is Kyle? I genuinely would like to know please.

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defygravity24
#46re: Next to Normal: Kyle or Aaron?
Posted: 11/29/09 at 8:53pm

I saw Aaron today and vocally he was amazing, but I think I liked Kyle's softer approach to the part.


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