Per ATC: No Next to Normal Transfer- Page 2

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 7:53pm

well you are dumb, so its not that much of a stretch for the ass to be added to it. dumbass.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 8:00pm

Awww, shucks, that was the best you could do?

Anyway. As far as Next to Normal versus High Fidelity and Broadway, I think part of it could be that (quality aside, heh) conceptually, High Fidelity reads much, much more commercial than Next to Normal.

Updated On: 2/21/08 at 08:00 PM

[joniray]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 8:22pm

"I'd rather it have an open run Off-Broadway as opposed to a Broadway run. Clearly not a lot of people feel this way."

That's because most people realize it is not financially feasible. You can't make enough Off-Broadway in ticket sales to keep a six-actor, six-musician musical afloat.

[Glory]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 8:41pm

Well that really makes me sad that I won't see it for a while I hope they do a recording *crosses fingers*

[BroadwayEnthusiast2]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 8:48pm

ashley0139, you're not alone.

[Kelly2]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 8:49pm

I, too, would like to see it have an open-ended run off-broadway. It's such a wonderful off-broadway show, with an amazing score. It'd be sad for it to be gone so quickly.

[broadwaybaby086]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 9:32pm

I agree with Ashley.

[snl89]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:00pm

yeah, hey, if it got an open run off Broadway, that would be TOTALLY fine with me too! Whatever it takes for it to run for long enough for me to see it many many times! I don't care at all about labeling :P


The concepts that underlie High Fidelity and Next to Normal are vastly different despite both involving Tom Kitt and a rock-based score. For one, the former is based on recognizable source material. The latter is original and deals with uncomfortable and challenging social issues. High Fidelity (provided it was good...which well, we know it failed and many would argue it was not good) had potential to get a mainstream audience at least in theory. Next to Normal is more challenging and due to the subject matter, is less likely to get many, many people into the seats on concept alone.

See, I understand that logic in theory, for sure, but I also think that people are becoming more open minded in what they view Broadway as. I mean, look, Spring Awakening deals with TONS of difficult, controversial issues (heck, it has a full on sex scene!) and it is probably THE most buzzed about show as of now. I think RENT opened the door for controversial to be okay, and now it's becoming more and more common for small, intimate, heavier shows to garner real audiences and fanbases. And actually Next to Normal already HAS a fairly solid fanbase I think! It may be way too small for it to be successful as of now, but there are definitely people who are VERY devoted to this show and have been going to see it at 2st as much as thair financial situations will allow :) So I think it DOES have an appeal.

Again, though, I honestly don't care WHAT they do, I just want it to run for a long time. If that means taking the book and tweaking it more and then bringing it back to even off Broadway later on, a okay with me!! I just don't want it to fade into obscurity. I only got to see it once and that is SO not enough for me!! haha

[KChenowethfan]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:13pm

The difference with Spring Awakening is that the uncomfortable parts are buried in radio-friendly pop songs. The general plot also occurs in another time era in another place, though updated through the songs. The issues presented in Next to Normal are not buried in radio-friendly pop and they are presented as something happening today in America. I don't think we can compare the buzz around Rent with what is happening today (or not happening) with Next to Normal. Clearly, this dealt with uncomfortable issues but there were also circumstances surrounding the show that don't surround Next to Normal. They are two very different shows dealing with very different issues and sets of people. No one could argue Rent dealt with the "hidden" secrets of a seemingly normal successful family in the suburbs. Its easier to for Middle America to cope with seeing uncomfortable things when presented with a group of people that are "not much like me."

Updated On: 2/21/08 at 10:13 PM

[InfiniteTheaterFrenzy]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:15pm

Let's not kid ourselves... this is DEFINITELY getting recorded.

[snl89]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:23pm

The difference with Spring Awakening is that the uncomfortable parts are buried in radio-friendly pop songs. And even then, the issues are teen-centric. The ones in Next to Normal are not. I don't think we can compare the buzz around Rent with what is happening today. Clearly, this dealt with uncomfortable issues but there were also circumstances surrounding the show that don't surround Next to Normal. They are two very different shows dealing with very different issues and sets of people. No one could argue Rent dealt with the "hidden" secrets of a seemingly normal successful family in the suburbs. Its easier to for Middle America to cope with seeing uncomfortable things when presented with a group of people that are "not much like me."

Ok, fair enough, I actually totally see what you mean. But, that said, how cool would it BE then, if the show DID transfer to Broadway and do well? It would be so groundbreaking to have a show that actually deals with serious issues that AREN'T teen-related or poverty-related. To have a show that actually confronts issues that MANY average middle class families encounter, that is presented in such a way that people will actually stomach it.

Really, that's a big part of the reason I love the show in the first place: it's SO real. Let me tell you, I was actually just talking to a family friend tonight who was telling me about a good friend of hers who has been suffering from severe depression and bipolar disorder, and recently underwent ECT. And even in my own family, my mom has had some serious mental health issues in the past too. She's never quite gotten to the point where she needed ECT, but the first words she said when the show ended was "Wow. That hit very, very close to home, but it was wonderful". So I think it's TIME that we have a show that deals with these issues. And yeah, it may be hard to find an audience for it at first, but I think it speaks to how good the show really IS that is HAS gotten an over all pretty darn positive reaction from a lot of people. So.. I just want it to be given a chance

[scaryclowns223]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:45pm

There may be only one New York producing team crazy enough to bring N2N to Broadway- and that's Jeffrey Seller and Kevin McCollum (the Ave Q, Rent, In the Heights team). However, provided the amount of money they lost bringing High Fidelity to Broadway, they might not want to take a chance on this one.

I would bring it to Broadway just to see that set reproduced.

[jordangirl]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:02pm

Per Alice tonight after the show (the best I've seen it by FAR tonight!), "the powers that be" want to rework a couple of things, then hopefully do a try-out in LA or Chicago and bring it in maybe next season.

[joniray]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:06pm

A friend of mine saw the show a few weeks ago and Jeffrey Seller (who my friend knows) was in the audience. According to my friend, at intermission when he went to say "hi" to him, Jeffrey said quietly to him "I can’t believe how good this is!" So maybe Jeffrey will have something to do with N2N’s future.

[snl89]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:07pm

Per Alice tonight after the show (the best I've seen it by FAR tonight!), "the powers that be" want to rework a couple of things, then hopefully do a try-out in LA or Chicago and bring it in maybe next season.

YUSS. OMG that makes me so happy that they really ARE still intending to give it a shot. But um, LA or Chicago? That's not cool- I'm gonna be in NY starting next fall!! They should have it somewhere in NY again! haha. But no, seriously, that's very nice to hear. If they want to rework a few things, that's totally fine with me :) (like I beleive I said before, all I require is that the cast stays the same)

[jordangirl]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:20pm

The LA or Chicago would be an out of town try-out. Like YF did in Seattle, TLM did in Denver, etc. It would then come back to NYC.

When I told her tonight was the best I've seen it, she was amazed but thankful. She said they weren't sure how it would be because they were pretty disappointed it wasn't moving this season. But the emotion totally worked.

And I definitely agree about the cast. I can't imagine it with anyone else!!

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:28pm

did alice mention anything about a recording. Cause if we don't get one it will be a TRAVESTY. cause rework means more cuts and i don't want to lose any more songs without getting them recorded, officially.

[jordangirl]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:31pm

I didn't ask about that tonight. Sorry! I'll try to remember on Saturday.

Updated On: 2/21/08 at 11:31 PM

[snl89]

Posted: 2/21/08 at 11:33pm

I don't know.. I REALLY hope they don't make any CUTS if they rework it. Doing some lyric changes and reworking some of the book, totally cool. But I don't want them to cut anymore songs! It's not like the show is too long anymore. It's a good length.

In fact, I was listening to Feeling Electric for the first time in a long time yesterday, and I remembered the one song that I really still miss quite a bit: I've Been. I know it's never going to happen, but if they would find a way to put that song in again I'd be SO happy. I mean I can live without it and everything, but it's just Brian would rock it SO hardcore. And it's not like it couldn't still fit with the way the show has been rewritten!


But yeah, I need a recording. And soon. The *coughhackwheez* is no longer doing it for me anymore

Updated On: 2/21/08 at 11:33 PM

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 12:41am

I've decided that liverpool has something invested in the production.



Or he's just crazy.

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 12:59am

neither. but thanks for being an ****.


Those stars rhyme with a type of cake.
Updated On: 2/22/08 at 12:59 AM

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 5:54am

"I'd rather it have an open run Off-Broadway as opposed to a Broadway run. Clearly not a lot of people feel this way."

That's because most people realize it is not financially feasible. You can't make enough Off-Broadway in ticket sales to keep a six-actor, six-musician musical afloat.

They won't make enough ON Broadway in ticket sales to keep it afloat, so your point is moot.

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 6:16am

So if the point is moot then why not move it and snag a few Tony's?

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 6:16am

So if the point is moot then why not move it and snag a few Tony's?

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 2/22/08 at 7:42am

Is the possibility of a few Tonys enough to justify sinking themselves $10 million in the hole?