SPRING AWAKENING CD Signing Set for Jan. 10 — Page 3

"why do you have to be mean becoz? I just stated my opinion. You have yours, I have mine. Don't insult anybody's, I never insulted yours."

I am saying this because your reasons for not liking somebody are ignorant and invalid. If you don't like Lea as a performer that's fine. If you don't like Spring Awakening that's fine.It's when you start to disregard someone as a person just because of what they said on a podcast. The you start making passive judgments about somebody you don't even know.

Updated On: 1/3/07 at 11:34 PM

HONESTLY, LIZZYA! Listen to the people with patience to deal with you.

This is my post-UGHHH comment.

"The scenes that involve nudity are art"

I agree that nudity is an art form, like in sculptures or paintings and stuff like that. Not really in movies, and sometimes in theatre, if done respectfully. But do I consider spanking an art form? No way. Even though I have not seen the show, no one, I don't care how theatrically talented they are, can EVER make spanking and all that other crap a beautiful thing. Could you imagine reading the following review:

"The score was fantastic, but by far the most gorgeous portion of Spring Awakening was the spanking & circle JO scenes. They were so moving, there was not a dry eye in the house."
hahahaha ; ) I myself am a teenager, and I am not going through any of these issues they talk about in SA. Abortion, suicide, masturbation, masochism??!! No way! There are 2 pregnant girls in my entire school of 2,800 students. These issues are only real for less than 1% of the population. In the interview Lea Michele said that these issues were real. Well, no, they are not. And it's not like someone that was on Boradway at age 9 knows what a normal kid goes through, anyway. So she should not be talking about that kind of stuff.

Think again, theaterdude.

well there's no way I'm ever paying to see this show but I will judge that scene for myself when it comes on YouTube.

Lizzya9, do us a favor. Never have kids.

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"Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to other people! I can name somebody going through each of those problems at my school alone right off the bat.

Nobody said spanking was an art form, but you don't even know how the scene plays out in context! AGAIN, this is based on SOURCE MATERIAL. It was based on the play that was written 100 years ago."

THANK YOU PARIS!! Glad to see someone else is writing exactly what I'm thinking (and is just as irritated in the process)!!

Lizzy, you're absolutely ridiculous.

Really, you should quit while you're... well... not ahead.

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I wanna SPANK all of you.

The musical is based on a ply from the 1800's! Get it through your head. Sex,Abortion,Suicide anD all issues still very much alive today. You in denial. You are also jealous Lea was on Broadway when she was 9 while you're, are still watching Beauty and the Beast. Your so wrong it makes me sad.

Updated On: 1/4/07 at 11:42 AM

PS:

The things I've said are no worse or different than that whole thread about how much everyone hates Shoshana, or the thread about sabotaging the Grease revival.

1. Your public high school is not the only public high school in the world. Your public high school is also not set in 1800s Germany. The existence or nonexistence of these issues in your own little world really doesn't matter at all.

2. So Lea didn't go through any of these issues... that's why it's called ACTING. Neither have most people. Doesn't mean they don't exist, nor does it mean that it cannot be played convincingly.

3. Your jealousy is ridiculous. If your goal is to be on Broadway, and you're planning on being a nice little girl and playing by all the rules all the time... you're not going to get anywhere in such a cutthroat business.

4. Of course you don't know the plot line -- it's not in the cd, it's not in any clips you see... you have to actually SEE THE SHOW, which you have not... then you will know the plot and have the authority to make judgment calls. Do you really only see shows you know the complete plot along with every lyric? (I suppose that happens when what you see are Disney movies put onstage... I know the plots of those too, as do many five-year-olds.) If so, you are seriously closing yourself off to most kinds of real original conceptual revolutionary theatre, and that's a DIRE shame. Then again, maybe people with "views" such as your own shouldn't see those shows anyway. They might not appreciate them.

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"It's just hard for me to pay $110 for a show that I don't really know what the plotline is and not be too fond of the star."


Read the play if you can't see the show. Spring Awakenings songs are the character's inner monologues. They don't give much insight into the plot.

"My only goal in life is to be on Broadway, so on the way to that I don't plan on trying to defy authority."


Nobody's saying have to have a criminal record. Before you plan on seeing and listening to things besides Disney Shows. You can't do Disney all the time(Ashley Brown is going to have to find something more original after MP).


Roseinthewinter, I like all the points you have made in this thread.

Updated On: 1/4/07 at 01:45 PM

oh god lizzy you really don't know when to stop do you?? First of all if you don't like Lea or the show all that much why post at all on this thread and above that post such an immature statement hoping Ashley Brown wins to prove a point? Oh that's right to be a pain in everyones A**!! (oh yes I just CURSED!!) anyways as stated before Lea was by NO means bashing the Disney shows and pointed out that they are necessary for the "theater wheel" to keep turning but she did say that there is room for a show like Spring Awakening. Now I don't know about you but I took it as her meaning a show that is a bit more complicated and complex that strives to be artistically challenging rather than just a fun family friendly evening at the theater which is what Disney PRIDES itself on producing and again she wasn't saying there was anything wrong with that but if you want the art of theater, particularly musical theater to evolve than you need to have both. Maybe people going to see Mary Poppins or Wicked will be inspired to go out on a limb and try something a little different like Spring Awakening. So by no means was she bashing those shows and as far as you thinking less of her for saying f*ck on a podcast....are kidding me? She's a big kid and can use big kid words. Anyways have you heard the Daphne Rubin Vega interview earlier on that podcasts episode? I'd hardly be worried about what Lea said and plus the interview was a very casual conversation and to me that is a much more fascinating listen and you get a much clearer sense of the artist rather than a formal put together statements that we've heard a million times. As far as your argument with the nudity...honey you haven't even seen the damn show so why are you even talking about this? You have no idea what the experience of seeing the show is so don't comment on what you haven't seen or feel free to comment but don't expect anyone to take you seriously. I was shocked to read your horrendous attack on Lea and her being a product of a crazed stage mother...if you listened to the interview you can hear how passionate she is about the theater and how much she loves what she's doing. I was suprised and really touched by how passionate she was during the interview and it gave me a much deeper respect for her. Also she said f*ck during a very passionate speech so it's like she just said it for the hell of it and to be provocative and she EXCUSED herself and was slightly embarassed! As far as the Mother thing...you don't know her family or her situation at all so why don't we keep comments like that to ourselves eh? Than to your argument about the issues not being real...at your high school do you really think that there are only two girls who have had sex or had a pregnancy scare or have even had an abortion?? You have no idea what goes on in a lot of other teens lives and there is so much that we keep bottled up that when you go and see this play and these issues are in your face it's a bit extreme but the delicate way it's handled is really inspiring. I don't mean to attack you and am not asking you to answer at all but have you ever had feelings and felt like you couldn't express them to family or friends? We all went through puberty this show deals with those issues beautifully and all I think can find soemthing to relate to. Do you not have kids at your school struggling to figure out who they are and do poorly in school like Moritz do you have kids who are abused at home? Do you have kids who are ostracized because people think that they are "sluts"? Think about that and then come back and tell me that less than 1% can relate to Spring Awakening. If you didn't relate to something in Spring Awakening you wouldn't be uncomfortable with what it brings up. Now i don't mean to dead on attack you but really....lets think before we post ok?

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ah anything gets a standing O these days.