#1
Posted: 12/7/05 at 3:48pm
How is it? I might try to get it off of Sweet Charity Rewards. Is it a pretty close representation of the show?
#2
Posted: 12/7/05 at 4:19pm
I really liked the Sweet Charity movie,
and I thought it made the transfer from
stage to screen reallly well.
and I thought it made the transfer from
stage to screen reallly well.
#3
Posted: 12/7/05 at 5:41pm
I, on the other hand, did not like the Sweet Charity movie. I did not like the use of photographs in the movie, and the stop motion was annoying as well. I am sure it was considered great when it opened, however, the use of those two methods in the movie really gives it a dated appearance when viewing it now.
However, I really enjoyed the whole Pompei Club dance sequence. Some of the best Fosse choreography on film.
However, I really enjoyed the whole Pompei Club dance sequence. Some of the best Fosse choreography on film.
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#4
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:01pm
i prefer the live show....Shirley MacLaine got better with the time i think. Her singing was as bad as Christina's or even worse. Still i love both Christina and Shirley.
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#5
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:39pm
yeah, i heard the movie cd and she sounded pretty bad, but how is "theres gotta be something better than this?"- that is my fave song in the show!!!! and what is the ending? does oscar like say "no way am i marrying you" and charity is left tragically sad?
thanks guys! i think ill get this movie (before the show closes if it does in the next few weeks cuz christina has to leave
)
thanks guys! i think ill get this movie (before the show closes if it does in the next few weeks cuz christina has to leave
)
#6
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:43pm
If you want to see what the dancing in this show is SUPPOSED to look like, get this movie. Fosse's choreography in "Big Spender," "Rich Man's Frug" and "There's Gotta Be Something Better Than This" is some of the greatest ever captured on film. Maclaine is fine (good acting and dancing, so-so-singing), especially when paired with Chita Rivera and Paula Kelly. Ignore the dialogue scenes which are straight soap opera and fast forward to the musical sequences which are all brilliant.
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#7
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:43pm
Well, in the version I saw on TCM, Oscar does tell Charity he can't "get all the other men" out of his mind, and leaves her at the marriage offices. She ends up on a park bench and some hippies come by with daisies, saying "Good Morning" and hand her one. She cheers up and skips away as the 'and she lived hopefully ever after" comes up on the screen.
Didn't like that ending, didn't like the fairy godmother idea ending either. But then, the current revival's ending is just ok as well. It's always going to be problematic.
As Charity is NOT a singing role, I didn't really care how Maclaine sounded. I thought she was just fine as Charity acting and dancing wise.
Didn't like that ending, didn't like the fairy godmother idea ending either. But then, the current revival's ending is just ok as well. It's always going to be problematic.
As Charity is NOT a singing role, I didn't really care how Maclaine sounded. I thought she was just fine as Charity acting and dancing wise.
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#8
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:48pm
sorry, one more question: how does it end in the revival? i know the "bravest individual-reprise" on the revival cd just makes it sound like she was dumped, but what does really happen?
and thanks guys sooooo much! :)
and thanks guys sooooo much! :)
#9
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:52pm
Well, she's on her own after Oscar dumps her because of her past...but she's not down and out...she's hopeful and kind of "her own woman" who doesn't need a man to feel good about herself.
I know, it's kinda lame...but so were the other endings!
I know, it's kinda lame...but so were the other endings!
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#10
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:52pm
Get it. It, unlinke the Charity revival, has superb choreography by the man who created this show. I adore this film from start to finish. Some people have issues with it, but few can deny the dances are some of the best on film, and a great documentation of the original production.
#11
Posted: 12/7/05 at 6:58pm
Did you really like the ending in the film? I just can't buy ANY of the endings that they have come up with.
I totally agree with you about the Fosse dances in this movie..not to be missed if you want a great record of the dances Fosse created.
I totally agree with you about the Fosse dances in this movie..not to be missed if you want a great record of the dances Fosse created.
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#12
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:05pm
to me, i think the hippie ending sounds best- the revival one seems too boring, and the fairy godmother...no clue!
well, i will save up my points online, and get this
thanks for the advise, and comments! i have to go do bio and french now, but you can keep talking if yall want! bye now! :)
well, i will save up my points online, and get this
thanks for the advise, and comments! i have to go do bio and french now, but you can keep talking if yall want! bye now! :)
#13
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:07pm
That movie made me hate Sweet Charity. I saw it before I saw the stage version and was convinced I would hate the stage version because I thought the movie was so horrible. I didn't enjoy anything about it.
And hang on, when did you win the discus?
#14
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:09pm
GREAT movie.
It's FOSSE, how could anyone hate it?
Shirley was great. John McMartin reprising his Tony nominated role was great.
Also it has one of Chita's very rare film roles!
It's FOSSE, how could anyone hate it?
Shirley was great. John McMartin reprising his Tony nominated role was great.
Also it has one of Chita's very rare film roles!
#15
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:11pm
GREAT movie.
It's FOSSE, how could anyone hate it?
Shirley was great. John McMartin reprising his Tony nominated role was great.
Also it has one of Chita's very rare film roles!
It's FOSSE, how could anyone hate it?
Shirley was great. John McMartin reprising his Tony nominated role was great.
Also it has one of Chita's very rare film roles!
#16
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:13pm
Well, I love the Fosse dance sequences, but dislike the movie. Chita was very good in this film, but John McMartin did nothing for me.
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#17
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:48pm
chitas in the movie! oooo! maybe if i see her in dancer's life, she could sign my dvd!! :)
and cant wait to see those dance sequences. ben vereen is a frug dancer, right? and i cant wait for "theres gotta be something better than this!!!" <--- love that song too much
ooooo i wanna see this soo badly!
and btw, i couldnt stay away, so im back WHILE doing my hw
and cant wait to see those dance sequences. ben vereen is a frug dancer, right? and i cant wait for "theres gotta be something better than this!!!" <--- love that song too much
ooooo i wanna see this soo badly!
and btw, i couldnt stay away, so im back WHILE doing my hw
#18
Posted: 12/7/05 at 7:59pm
The DVD I rented recently had an alternate ending as an extra where Oscar finds Charity in the park and it all ends "happy" with them together.
As far as film adaptations of B-way musicals, this one's good. Sure, the freeze-frame is horribly dates and cheesy, but Shirley's great and the dancing is as well. I actually love the way they were able to expand numbers such as "I'm A Brass Band," which just keeps growing and growing...
As far as film adaptations of B-way musicals, this one's good. Sure, the freeze-frame is horribly dates and cheesy, but Shirley's great and the dancing is as well. I actually love the way they were able to expand numbers such as "I'm A Brass Band," which just keeps growing and growing...
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#19
Posted: 12/7/05 at 8:32pm
Regrettfully, a few good numbers were cut as is the case with many movie musicals
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#20
Posted: 12/7/05 at 8:41pm
Two of the shows best numbers were cut. "I'm The Bravest Individual" and "Baby, Dream Your Dream." It was a mistake cutting these numbers. ITBI was replaced with a less than stellar song.
#21
Posted: 12/7/05 at 8:43pm
Too Many Tomrrows omission was also a mistake
Poster Emeritus
#22
Posted: 12/7/05 at 8:48pm
I have always felt that this film was vastly underrated. Shirley MacLaine gives one of her best performances as Charity (and that's saying a lot, considering the quality and scope of her work). She can break your heart as Charity Hope Valentine. She has all the right qualities: Vulnerability, toughness, humor, naïveté, and she can sing (well enough) and dance (very well). And she was a big star at the time (… and still is).
In addition, this was Fosse's debut as a film director. I really love that he tried some now-dated cinematic techniques, like the still frame “holds” and “pans,” and running the camera backwards, etc. They will catch you off-guard, and probably make you giggle a bit, but I love them just the same. They are as much a part of this film era as the high hair and '60s eyelashes.
Also, they have John McMartin (from the OBC) recreating his role (wearing way too much makeup, I might add). Sammy Davis, Jr. is a groovy amazement as Big Daddy on “The Rhythm of Life.” Not to be missed. This movie WORKS more often than it doesn't, and is well worth your time.
If you check out the DVD, you'll also be treated to an alternate ending that changes everything.
In addition, this was Fosse's debut as a film director. I really love that he tried some now-dated cinematic techniques, like the still frame “holds” and “pans,” and running the camera backwards, etc. They will catch you off-guard, and probably make you giggle a bit, but I love them just the same. They are as much a part of this film era as the high hair and '60s eyelashes.
Also, they have John McMartin (from the OBC) recreating his role (wearing way too much makeup, I might add). Sammy Davis, Jr. is a groovy amazement as Big Daddy on “The Rhythm of Life.” Not to be missed. This movie WORKS more often than it doesn't, and is well worth your time.
If you check out the DVD, you'll also be treated to an alternate ending that changes everything.
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#23
Posted: 12/7/05 at 8:57pm
wow, you guys are making me too excited!!!! :) at least i have a movie trailer for it to keep me entertained till then...
and if we could just turn this into a sweet charity love/comment/discussion thread, i was wondering when do they sing "theres gotta be..." like in a dressing room, or something? and does charity have a tattoo really in the movie, or is it just for the movie cover?
and are there any charity links with video clips, or a synopsis, or anything?
thanks, and sorry, i have been holding in my CHARITYisms till now, and just had to burst out with all that stuff! :)
and btw, great reviews!!!! :)
and if we could just turn this into a sweet charity love/comment/discussion thread, i was wondering when do they sing "theres gotta be..." like in a dressing room, or something? and does charity have a tattoo really in the movie, or is it just for the movie cover?
and are there any charity links with video clips, or a synopsis, or anything?
thanks, and sorry, i have been holding in my CHARITYisms till now, and just had to burst out with all that stuff! :)
and btw, great reviews!!!! :)
#24
Posted: 12/7/05 at 9:17pm
Maclaine had the tattoo in the film..it said "Charlie".
"My dreams, watching me said, one to the other...this life has let us down."
#25
Posted: 12/7/05 at 9:22pm
haha
okay, my fave SC lyrics are in baby dream your dream "he says hes gone bowling, but a bowling ball...is not what daddys rolling!" :P that cracks me up!!!!
what are your guys fave songs/lyrics?
okay, my fave SC lyrics are in baby dream your dream "he says hes gone bowling, but a bowling ball...is not what daddys rolling!" :P that cracks me up!!!!
what are your guys fave songs/lyrics?
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