#26
Posted: 4/17/05 at 5:35pm
I understand that, but I still think that the movie is offensive and irresponsible towards the Native American community.
Sara Ramirez as POCAHONTAS — Page 2
#27
Posted: 4/17/05 at 5:46pm
I saw the animated movie for the first time recently. Man, Pocahontas never has a bad hair day!
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#28
Posted: 4/17/05 at 5:58pm
LOL chris!
I posted this in the Jera thread but it needs to be said again! Sara's way more suited in this role than Eden!! just LISTEN to the clip wow! and i'm pretty judgmental about my pocahontas voices because i actually didn't like the movie and the singing was all there was to hold on to
I posted this in the Jera thread but it needs to be said again! Sara's way more suited in this role than Eden!! just LISTEN to the clip wow! and i'm pretty judgmental about my pocahontas voices because i actually didn't like the movie and the singing was all there was to hold on to
#29
Posted: 4/17/05 at 7:41pm
The clip is BEAUTIFUL!
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#30
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:33pm
And, Eden doesn't look the part. I'm sorry. But voice isn't everything. You need to look the part and she just doesn't To me, Ramirez has the whole package.
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#31
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:37pm
She's a little wide in the hip, and a little busty for pocohantas...in the disney film she looks in her mid early -mid 20s. i just dont think sara makes the cut
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#32
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:41pm
Pocahontas doesn't wear pants...the hips wouldn't be very noticable. Besides...have you seen her in person? She's not a very big woman...in fact...she's quite small. And as far as talent goes...Eden is a pop singer...through and through. She's very talented. But she screeches. Sara has a much more smooth and powerful voice. She is Pocahontas. She would be perfect.
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#33
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:46pm
considerin that the costume basically ends after the hips, i think it would be quite noticable..plus she'd probably have to lose a good bit of weight, i don't think any producer would want a husky pocohantas....unless Jenny Craig produced it?
I adore the black band holding on the Phantom's mask. ~ Jenna2
#34
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:48pm
The woman has talent coming out of the ass. Did you see the picture of her in the pink shirt on the first page? If that is wide in the hip than Eden Espinosa is anorexic.
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#35
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:50pm
Yeah her low notes make me want to turn on my Ethel Merman Disco CD to releave the pain..I'm not saying she's not talented, just not up to par for the role.
I adore the black band holding on the Phantom's mask. ~ Jenna2
#36
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:51pm
I guess we agree to disagree. But I would put my money on her getting the role over Eden.
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#37
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:53pm
Well I don't think Eden shoudl get the role either, I don't personally care for her...I just wish we could all find a happy medium.
I adore the black band holding on the Phantom's mask. ~ Jenna2
#38
Posted: 4/17/05 at 8:54pm
Sara any day over Eden. Eden would screech those sweet Menken songs and the meaning would be lost in melisma. Sara has a very flexible voice. I do think she has an absolutely horrid break, though, and several of the songs in Spamalot show it off to her detriment (for example, listen to Marin Mazzie. The woman's voice is seamless). That said, her voice is pretty remarkable and her range is great and I think they'd be able to write some fantastic new stuff for a stage adaptation of the musical.
Plus, all you people who keep saying Sara is fat, go see Spamalot. She's not a size 2 but she's GORGEOUS. So real-looking and absolutely, undeniably hotter than any of the skinny dancers prancing around her in the ensemble. She ranks up there with Idina and Alice Ripley for the hottest women of Broadway.
Plus, all you people who keep saying Sara is fat, go see Spamalot. She's not a size 2 but she's GORGEOUS. So real-looking and absolutely, undeniably hotter than any of the skinny dancers prancing around her in the ensemble. She ranks up there with Idina and Alice Ripley for the hottest women of Broadway.
#39
Posted: 4/17/05 at 9:24pm
Have you heard Eden sing Pocahontas or any other Disney song? She doesn't screech at all. I think both ladies have wonderful voices and would suit the role well.
#40
Posted: 4/17/05 at 9:31pm
i think pocahontas should kinda be a little husky. lol i know i know but she's supposed to be a "woman of the land" type of person and not pop/barbie. not that eden's a barbie but i see no issues with weight in Sara
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#41
Posted: 4/18/05 at 1:46pm
She sounds good, but Judy Kuhn's version in the movie is AWESOME. Where is she now?
#42
Posted: 4/18/05 at 1:54pm
"Doesn't the Disney version neglect the fact that Pochahontas was 13 or so when the action actually happened, and that John Smith raped her... "
---> My thoughts exactly.
OK, since there are "no current plans" to bring Pocahontas to Broadway, why debate over whether Eden or Sara will play it? By the time it gets to Broadway, IF it gets to Broadway, both of them could be long gone from our radars, and two new young divas could be debated. I say hang out until plans are announced to even DO the show...which I don't understand, since the movie was horrible anyway!
Ok, I'm done. Have a good day everyone.
Oh, and the next person who implies that Sara Ramirez is fat should be locked away. Its people like that who lead society into thinking women need to weigh 9 pounds to be attractive. Sara is a gorgeous woman.
---> My thoughts exactly.
OK, since there are "no current plans" to bring Pocahontas to Broadway, why debate over whether Eden or Sara will play it? By the time it gets to Broadway, IF it gets to Broadway, both of them could be long gone from our radars, and two new young divas could be debated. I say hang out until plans are announced to even DO the show...which I don't understand, since the movie was horrible anyway!
Ok, I'm done. Have a good day everyone.
Oh, and the next person who implies that Sara Ramirez is fat should be locked away. Its people like that who lead society into thinking women need to weigh 9 pounds to be attractive. Sara is a gorgeous woman.
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#43
Posted: 4/18/05 at 4:35pm
Have any of you SEEN the film? Pocahantas is the most busty and most "hippy" of all the Disney Heroines. (Ok, Noni in Lilo & Stitch has bigger hips, but that is very different animation style) The pic's on this thread are the only ones I've seen of Ms. Ramirez, but I think she is beautiful and a perfect size. The discussion of her size is what's wrong with the image of women in this country.
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#44
^Eden as Pocahontas at Dinseyland
However, I'd prefer Sara.
Posted: 4/18/05 at 5:09pm
^Eden as Pocahontas at Dinseyland
However, I'd prefer Sara.
awkward.
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#45
Posted: 4/18/05 at 5:44pm
Her version of Colors of the Wind is awesome
She would be so great...
She would be so great...
#47
Posted: 4/18/05 at 5:50pm
I vote for Grandma Moses, becuase that's the age Sara Ramirez and Eden Espinoza will be by the time Disney gets around to adapting POCAHONTAS for the stage.
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