Some Gay rights leaders say 'Boycott Hairspray Movie'- Page 4

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 9:23am

It all comes down to the fact that these people still believe that being gay is a CHOICE.

[HughE2030]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 9:58am

Queen Latifah is in the closet, but I won't be boycotting Hairspray because of it.

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 10:02am

I think this has a little more to do with than simply being in the closet, Hugh.

[bwayinside]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 10:26am

Did John Waters have anything to do with this Travolta-career re-re-rehashing? Just wondering...
After the tragedy that was "Chicago" the movie musical, which was one of the worst movies I had seen in a long time, I doubt I'll ever see another one.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 12:25pm

Fenchurch:

>>>I can think of a lot (relgions that embrace homosexuality). Wicca and the other myriad neo-pagan >>religions to begin with (they weren't always though) and scientology is cult, the tech may work, but the CoS is cult and >>has circumvented the law and people's civil rights many many >>many times.

No offense but many people view "Wicca" and neopaganism as cults too. The definition of "cult" varies, but obviously any small group of people practicing any kind of similar activities could be defined as such. Wicca is considered a religion by the US government, but the “religion” itself was created pretty late in the religion creating game. And at the end of that day only has fewer than 150,000 "followers" in the US. Scientologists have fewer than 100,000 in the US. To me they both look like religious McDonalds and Burger Kings. Wicca and Scientology have drawn quite a bit from world religions and their roots in Western/Eastern faiths and philosophies.


The top religions of the world still do not fully except or embrace homosexuality. Some have made headway, but nothing close to what gay people need.

[dannilupone]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 12:35pm

"As a fat person, I was offended when the average sized Michael McKean played the role. I mean, Edna's a fat icon!"

Ha!

Here Here!

[dannilupone]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 12:39pm

"If I am an atheist I am STILL allowed to play a Christian on stage.

If I am a Christian, I am STILL allowed to play a Muslim on stage.

If I am a scientologist, I am STILL allowed to play a homosexual on stage.

You don't have to agree or disagree with what you're doing on stage. It is called ACTING.

GET OVER IT."

*I am a homosexual, I am STILL allowed to play a muslim actor impersonating Patti Lupone on stage.*

~Danni Lupone
Updated On: 7/6/07 at 12:39 PM

[Laurhearts SA]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 1:25pm

Apparently the gay thing doesn't bother Travolta that much since he is playing a woman.

[JRybka]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 1:34pm

Okay so why do people get their panties in a twist. It is a movie. There are more important things in the world like the fact that the leader of the free world (our president) hates gay people. So who gives a rats ass about the whole John Travolta/Hairspray thing. I have some friends who are Christian and they follow the Catholic church but they do not believe it 100%. I still love them and vice versa.

I am going to see the movie anyway.. cause I love the show and I got a free ticket.

I am gay (and at one time one of the leaders in the Baltimore Gay Community) and I still think one should always question our own.

[Evan Almighty]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 1:54pm

Bwayinside said: "After the tragedy that was "Chicago" the movie musical, which was one of the worst movies I had seen in a long time, I doubt I'll ever see another one."

What didn't you like about CHICAGO?

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 1:55pm

"Apparently the gay thing doesn't bother Travolta that much since he is playing a woman. "

This kind of comments keeps being said. But I ask you how does playing a woman in ANY way = gay?

Male comedians (most of them straight) have been playing women for over a century.

[postergirl]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 2:16pm

^^^^^^ Exactly! Ask all but one of the Pythons, not to mention the Greeks, Romans and any Shakespearean actor before whatever date it was....... and the myriad of actors in boy's schools.

[Fenchurch]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 5:17pm

Actually, Im pretty offended that you felt the need to put Wicca in quotes. As a second generation Wiccan, that's pretty f-ed up.

And most cult awareness programs will tell you that one of the major characteristics of a cult is a charismatic leader (Hubbard)

Wicca has never had such a leader. So get your facts straight.

[WhatYouOwn27]

Posted: 7/6/07 at 6:32pm

wait what does hairspray have to do with scientology?

[allofmylife]

Posted: 7/8/07 at 3:51am

Both are insanely worshiped by an actually small group of core believers who will broach no criticism. Both were created by charismatic strange little men who were thought of as a bad influence on society by the government. The creators of both have rhyming names (John and Ron). I could go on, but the similarities speak for themselves.

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 7/8/07 at 8:53am

Both (Hairspray and Scientology) were created by charismatic strange little men who were thought of as a bad influence on society by the government. The creators of both have rhyming names (John and Ron).

Ha! Until I got to the last sentence I thought you were talking about Marc!

[allofmylife]

Posted: 7/8/07 at 11:45am

No, Mark would be Travolta, a true believer who has talent that can never be denied and just spills off the screen/stage.

[Laurhearts SA]

Posted: 7/14/07 at 11:13pm

I'm not saying that a man playing a woman = gay. Thats is what some are saying.

I was just making a positive comment that playing a woman doesn't bother Travolta. I know some homophobes whom I couldn't pay to dress as a woman. So it's all good. :)
Updated On: 7/14/07 at 11:13 PM

[DAME]

Posted: 7/15/07 at 1:28am

Hairspray is screening this coming Wednesday as part of Outfest; The Los Angeles gay and lesbian film festival. It is now sold out. So much for the boycott.

[G_Schlozinski2]

Posted: 7/15/07 at 10:01am

It's quite the other way around. Today's 'leading religions' drew much of their mythology from far earlier mystical traditions:

(Mithra also had, by the way, 12 disciples!) And Santa Claus? Turkish!

Call it what they will, the story of the mystical child, born without the intervention of an earthly father is a classic example of the Oedipal complex, in which the boy child competes with the father for mother's love. In virtually all these stories, the mother is without sin, incorruptible, as evidenced by her 'virginity' at the boy child's birth, i.e., she has not had sex with (god) the father. The boy-child is dependent on the mother(earth) and wants all her attention, for which the father is seen to compete.

Needless to say, the magical child is almost invariably put to death at an early age, at which time he becomes one with the father. This is the metaphorical release from the oedipal complex, complete with homoerotic piercing - gouging of eyes, crowning with thorns, nails, spears, etc, typical of adolescent fantasies. Of course, the 'son of god' is preternaturally wise, charismatic, a prophet. Witness the Christian story of Jesus debating the rabbis at the temple, symbolic of the bar mitzvah, ‘today I am a man!’ This is the part where the father gets to beam with pride – and the mother gets to worry that her child has gone ‘missing.’

In temperate climates, holidays celebrating the harvest and the winter solstice can be seen to represent the tribe's (and later, the culture's) ability to persist through the coming season of scarce resources. Note that winter holidays elevate the practice of giving, i.e., sharing the harvest, which is necessary to survival of the tribe through the winter. Think of Dickens' Scrooge, for example, as a reminder that banding together for celebration and sharing is how the species survives (the three ghosts, dwelling in the unconscious, or sleeping mind each stress sharing - love, charity, and the passing on of possessions after death).

In the Spring, of course, there's the veneration of symbols of rebirth - the newborn lamb ('the lamb of god), the bunny, the egg, baskets made of fresh, pliant branches. This is the
season wherein the magical child dies and is reborn. Again, in Oedipal terms, his childhood is put to death, and he re-emerges as the New Man, now mature and re-united with the father, with whom he is no longer in competition for mother-love. And his marriage (to Eve, the first woman – his first woman, the first ‘virgin’), takes place in June, of course, near the summer solstice, just as the season of growth - raising the family as well as the livestock, sharing crop maintenance, etc. - begins. (only to be repeated in the winter with the birth of the magical child’s magical child – married in June, a father in December… hmmm – what was going on at the spring equinox, I wonder…. let’s see, three months later and it certainly begins to look like they’ve got to be married, no?)

Happy holidays. LOL

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 7/15/07 at 10:50am

HAIRSPRAY's creator, John Waters, is gay. The musical's composers, Scott Whitman and Marc Shaiman, are gay. The director/choreographer of the current film adaption of the musical, Adam Shankman, is gay.

Quoting John Waters regarding John Travolta: “If he were homophobic, he’d have had a heart attack on the set.”

'Nuff said.

7/15/07 New York Times Interview with John Travolta: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/15/movies/15gree.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Updated On: 7/16/07 at 10:50 AM

[Gelfling]

Posted: 7/16/07 at 5:12am

As always things are twisted every which way by everyone to suit their needs.

The "gay leaders" in questions probably never pretended to be "leaders" of any kind but you have to admit it sounds great for a title, right?

And they never called Travolta "homophobic", they said Scientology was. Most Christian groups preaching "rehabilitation" and "ex-gays" will tell you they are not homophobic. They just think you're actually happier not "living in sin".

Travolta is a very outspoken ambassador for the cult and as such, he should expect to take heat from time to time on such issues.

Now, as I said before, I believe the whole boycott thing is ludicrous because the movie is certainly NOT homophobic, nor the moviemakers or anyone involved with the play or original movie but the article calling for the boycott did raise the issue of homophobic practices and policies by a cult that pretends to be the most tolerant "religion" and given that most people still believe that Scientology is a cuddly group of celeb loons, I think it's a good thing they spoke up.