Sunset Blvd - Movie musical — Page 2
#27
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:26pm
I'm with Rath - I hated the way Close sang Sunset (of course, I hated the show in it's entirety)...but I think there are plenty of better actresses for the part - I saw Elaine Paige do it and she was AWESOME.
I'm kinda liking the idea of Liza also...
I'm kinda liking the idea of Liza also...
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#28
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:28pm
"Could be Liza's big comeback! Liza's current situation would be akin to where Gloria Swanson was in her life/career when she did the original, no?"
Yes, with the exception that Gloria Swanson really WAS a forgotten star and I wouldn't call Liza forgotten. True, she hasn't been in a movie for a long while, but still I wouldn't say she's forgotten and therefore wouldn't compare these two ladies. And because of that I don't want to see Liza playing "Norma-fied" version of herself.
I'd rather see Glenn Close to play Norma even if Liza is a much better singer than Close.
I'm still hoping MERYL STREEP will finally get to play this part she lost to Patti over ten years ago.
Yes, with the exception that Gloria Swanson really WAS a forgotten star and I wouldn't call Liza forgotten. True, she hasn't been in a movie for a long while, but still I wouldn't say she's forgotten and therefore wouldn't compare these two ladies. And because of that I don't want to see Liza playing "Norma-fied" version of herself.
I'd rather see Glenn Close to play Norma even if Liza is a much better singer than Close.
I'm still hoping MERYL STREEP will finally get to play this part she lost to Patti over ten years ago.
#29
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:32pm
Streep would have to have some major Joan Lader work in order to handle that score.
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#30
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:33pm
I'd rather hear Streep try to sing it then hear Close butcher it as she has in the past...lol...
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#31
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:35pm
I'd rather a real singer than either one of those two.
I saw Buckley a few times, and I also saw Karen Mason. Mason's acting wasn't up to Buckley's, but she sang the score much better. In fact, I remarked to her that she should have been the singer on the OBCR.
I saw Buckley a few times, and I also saw Karen Mason. Mason's acting wasn't up to Buckley's, but she sang the score much better. In fact, I remarked to her that she should have been the singer on the OBCR.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#32
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:36pm
The first three notes of the Jets theme- you know- bu buuuuuh, BUH! That's the same three notes as "Maria" in the song of the same title. Or at least the same intervals.
#33
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:38pm
At the end of the year we'll be gearing up for two other big movie musicals: Rent and The Producers... I hear Dreamgirls and Hairspray are still "in talks", but does anyone else know of any others that are considered?
Sunset Blvd for Christmas 2006 would be awesome.
Sunset Blvd for Christmas 2006 would be awesome.
#34
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:40pm
If Sam Mendes ever gets around to it, he's set to direct Sweeney Todd.
#35
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:41pm
Streep actually has a rather good voice! She has sung in two of her movies: A Postcard From the Edge and in Death Becomes Her.
Her song in DBH wasn't that much of a stretch but her final number ("... I'm leaving this heartbreak hotel...') in APFTE was really good! She showed that she can pull off even more demanding songs. Yes, the movies were made some time ago, but we are talking about MERYL STREEP... the woman who can learn to do anything... and considering she had a singing teacher before her movie career took off singing isn't a new thing to her.
Her song in DBH wasn't that much of a stretch but her final number ("... I'm leaving this heartbreak hotel...') in APFTE was really good! She showed that she can pull off even more demanding songs. Yes, the movies were made some time ago, but we are talking about MERYL STREEP... the woman who can learn to do anything... and considering she had a singing teacher before her movie career took off singing isn't a new thing to her.
#36
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:41pm
Plum,but those notes are not obvious, at least not to me. Are you saying they work subliminaly?
#37
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:42pm
I'm sorry, people, but I never got over La LuPone. To me, she is the only Norma. But, in reality, for the movie, I'd go for Liza.
#38
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:43pm
Sam Mendes and Sweeney Todd, huh ? Can you say rated R?
Updated On: 2/16/05 at 03:43 PM
#39
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:46pm
Streep also sang (brilliantly) in "Ironweed."
"Dreamgirls" is definitely beyond "in talks" -- it's been greenlighted, Condon is finishing up the final draft of the script, pre-production has begun and casting is underway.
"Dreamgirls" is definitely beyond "in talks" -- it's been greenlighted, Condon is finishing up the final draft of the script, pre-production has begun and casting is underway.
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#40
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:46pm
Adam Chris, I think that repetition in that sense helps tie a large, sprawling score together. Sondheim does the same thing all the time in Sunday in the Park With George and Sweeney Todd. I find it's more subtle than outright reprises.
Reprises work sometimes, when they fit in with the characters' actions. The little "People Will Say We're In Love" reprise in Oklahoma! works that way. But in Sunset Boulevard, things just get repeated and repeated and repeated for no apparent reason except to fill up space, and that drove me nuts. I did like the music a whole lot better than I do a lot of ALW's stuff, but for heaven's sake, that doesn't mean I want to hear the same theme 36 times.
Reprises work sometimes, when they fit in with the characters' actions. The little "People Will Say We're In Love" reprise in Oklahoma! works that way. But in Sunset Boulevard, things just get repeated and repeated and repeated for no apparent reason except to fill up space, and that drove me nuts. I did like the music a whole lot better than I do a lot of ALW's stuff, but for heaven's sake, that doesn't mean I want to hear the same theme 36 times.
#41
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:47pm
Sant - her songs in POSTCARDS weren't difficult by any stretch either. The SUNSET score is rangy and taxing. Maybe she could do it - but it would take a lot of work. If you have so many people who are right who already can handle the score, why bother?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#42
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:48pm
"Sam Mendes and Sweeney Todd, huh ? Can you say rated R?"
Can you say "I CAN'T WAIT" ? !!!
Can you say "I CAN'T WAIT" ? !!!
Updated On: 2/16/05 at 03:48 PM
#43
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:49pm
OK Rath - for instance? what major hollywood star is the right age and can handle the vocals, acting and total feel of the piece?
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#44
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:50pm
Oh, my god! When Meryl sang "He's My Pal" in IRONWEED, I cried like a baby. That was some brilliant acting right there.
#45
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:51pm
I've still got my fingers crossed that Streisand will somehow sneak in there and take the part, even though I know it won't happen.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#46
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:51pm
I didn't say anything about major Hollywood stars. Although hello, Liza is pretty major in my book. I'd have to think about that - but I was talking more on the lines of Minnelli, LuPone, etc.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#47
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:56pm
Lupone would never agree to do it. She hates ALWEBBER and for mercy's sake...lets not bring up Barbara. Norma was suppose to be a beautiful face, something Barbara never was.
Updated On: 2/16/05 at 03:56 PM
#48
Posted: 2/16/05 at 3:59pm
Beautiful? Or just very expressive...
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#49
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:00pm
Rath- though I agree with you - Movies are about selling tickets and the midwest public doesn't have any idea who lupone is, for the most part. I think hollywood insists on names that are instantly recognizable by the masses..
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#50
Posted: 2/16/05 at 4:01pm
Beautiful... Expressive...same thing for silent movies. Only thing Baps can express is "bird".
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