Sunset Blvd - Movie musical — Page 5
#102
Posted: 2/17/05 at 12:58pm
Rathnait you are absolutely right. I am just SO keen that we have another HIT film musical and I suppose the success of CHICAGO proves that our idea of Broadway stars who can deliver a superb LIVE performance is actually miles away from what they look for in the movies. It has been shown that stars such as CAROL CHANNING, MARY MARTIN and ETHEL MERMAN never really achieved greatness in movies - I think you can be just TOO large for the screen. "It's the pictures that got smaller" comes to mind. Liza has a successful movie track record (in parts) and I would LOVE to see her but I'm not sure the public is ready for her "return" and it might make the movie seem like a bit of a joke.
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#103
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:08pm
Who says the star needs to be playing Norma?
#104
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:09pm
Eggby, I have to agree with you. I don't believe people are ready to see her on the screen. She is a bit of a joke in the public light, with her marrying gay guys, wierd wedding pics, bouts with substance abuse and her antics on Arrested Development. Plus, her voice is shot. I feel bad for her, 'cause she is a 'faded glory'.
If she was cast in the movie people would not come out, 'cause the tabloids and movie critics would ravage the film, due to Liza's participation. Before anyone could give it a fair shake the public would make up it's mind due to unfair press. Gossip columist and the tabloids would exploit Liza and bring down the film. My opinion.
If she was cast in the movie people would not come out, 'cause the tabloids and movie critics would ravage the film, due to Liza's participation. Before anyone could give it a fair shake the public would make up it's mind due to unfair press. Gossip columist and the tabloids would exploit Liza and bring down the film. My opinion.
Updated On: 2/17/05 at 01:09 PM
#105
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:12pm
Let's face it, Liza brings along a LOT of baggage!! This doesn't compare with the remote and mysterious (?) star quality that Gloria Swanson brought to the original movie.
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#106
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:18pm
Why doesnt Lord Weber get over himself, and cast Faye Dunaway...born to play an aging screen diva!
#107
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:19pm
But Swanson was EXACTLY that - a "faded glory" and a bit of a joke when she made the original.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#108
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:23pm
Raithnait62, thanks for the affirmation about my thoughts about Glenn Close......You are a doll and I am glad you are here :)
"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."
#109
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:24pm
I think if we're not interested in pulling power then we should go for ELAINE PAIGE. She definitely can sing and act the role off the stage/screen!!
What about Shirley Maclain? Too old???
What about Shirley Maclain? Too old???
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#110
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:26pm
Margo, I am very pleased you agree that this might be an opportunity for Liza to reclaim her former glory, etc. !
"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."
#111
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:27pm
EGGBY - you genius. Shirley MacLaine - I LOVE it!
And thank you for the kind words, Wish. :)
And thank you for the kind words, Wish. :)
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#112
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:35pm
sideshowman, I believe Ms. Dunaway already has an unpleasant history with the stage musical of SUNSET BOULEVARD. Shirley MacLaine is a magnificent actress and dancer. However, while certainly having a proficient singing voice, she was never a singer as Liza Minnelli is, was, will be again. :)
I agree with Margo that it seems this would be an ideal vehicle for Liza Minnelli to reclaim her place in the firmament of stars.
p.s. Raithnait62, did you ever see Shirley MacLaine in concert? She "used" to be incredible with tons of dancing. And I loved her tv specials, such as GYPSY IN MY SOUL. I had her LIVE AT THE PALACE album years ago (I had seen her show there twice) and loooooooooooved it to pieces. I used to workout to that Shirley MacLaine album for years.
Alas, saw her in concert just a few years ago and there were no dancers with her and she barely danced at all. I believe this change in her standard, highly dance oriented concerts, was due to some physical problems she began to allude to in her most recent book.
I hope she is back to her dancing glory.
I agree with Margo that it seems this would be an ideal vehicle for Liza Minnelli to reclaim her place in the firmament of stars.
p.s. Raithnait62, did you ever see Shirley MacLaine in concert? She "used" to be incredible with tons of dancing. And I loved her tv specials, such as GYPSY IN MY SOUL. I had her LIVE AT THE PALACE album years ago (I had seen her show there twice) and loooooooooooved it to pieces. I used to workout to that Shirley MacLaine album for years.
Alas, saw her in concert just a few years ago and there were no dancers with her and she barely danced at all. I believe this change in her standard, highly dance oriented concerts, was due to some physical problems she began to allude to in her most recent book.
I hope she is back to her dancing glory.
"Blow out the candles Robert and make a wish. Want something, want SOMETHING."
#113
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:41pm
I have never seen Ms. McLaine live - but she can belt out a song, that's for sure.
Adam - Minnelli's "antics" on Arrested Development have won her critical acclaim and audience praise.
Adam - Minnelli's "antics" on Arrested Development have won her critical acclaim and audience praise.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#114
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:42pm
Rath, I understand what you are saying...they are both "faded glory" types but Gloria didn't have to sing. All she had to do was act. This version is both acting and singing. The part is too much of a demand. Vocally, I doubt Liza could pull it off. She would not be able portray Norma, rather she would Liza-nelize the the NORMA character. It would just be a caricature of herself.
If Liza could "get herself together", then we have something to talk about, but until then I can't see it happening.
If Liza could "get herself together", then we have something to talk about, but until then I can't see it happening.
#115
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:46pm
Right, her antics as playing herself comedic style ~ which is not what sunset is about. If she were doing comedy as playing a different someone other than herself then I would say she might be ready for something more meaty. Norma's role needs to be played by someone who can play it "straight".
Updated On: 2/17/05 at 01:46 PM
#116
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:48pm
I know she could play it straight. Her Academy Award was for playing it straight. Rent STERILE CUCKOO (if it's available). Rent CABARET if you haven't seen it. I know she's a lot older now, but I've watched her rise and fall more often than the temperature. I have faith.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#117
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:50pm
I'm glad you have faith in her. I am aware of the movies she has made. It just seems like her craft is not where it should be to tackle Norma.
#118
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:51pm
I know what you're saying - what I'm saying is, I know she will do the work to get herself back there, like she has countless times before.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#120
Posted: 2/17/05 at 1:57pm
So...how about the characters who aren't named Norma? Anyone?
#121
Posted: 2/17/05 at 2:15pm
Well, there's your answer. Back to Norma!
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#122
Posted: 2/17/05 at 2:24pm
I think Liza would be good in this role.
Yay for Liza!
Yay for Liza!
#123
Posted: 2/17/05 at 2:24pm
That's what I thought. Carry on, people.
#124
Posted: 2/17/05 at 3:38pm
LAURA MICHELLE KELLY for Betty!
"Your eyes..... they shine like the pants on my blue serge suit"
#125
Posted: 2/17/05 at 3:40pm
Brittany Murphy for Betty.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
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