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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime

That's The Showbiz from Ragtime

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime#1

Posted: 3/15/12 at 9:18am

So I know the song was cut after Toronto- which is too bad b/c it was a great little piece for Houdini and Nesbit- I have looked everywhere and there is not a single piece of published Ragtime Sheet music that I can find that has the song in it- and I don't seem to be able to find anyone who has a copy of the score from the Toronto production either- anyone here have any ideas where I might be able to get my hands on it?

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #2

Posted: 3/15/12 at 12:19pm

The song was cut IN Toronto, not after Toronto. I saw the show there and it had already been replaced by another Houdini/Nesbitt number (the title escapes me) that was also later cut.


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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #2

Posted: 3/15/12 at 12:24pm

Ah, see I was always under the impression it was cut after- they must have recorded the cast album very close or even before they opened up there (ah the good old days)

I grew up in Rochester and that show was ALL over local TV- it was a really big deal that it was opening up there, the CD was in all of the local stores.

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #3

Posted: 3/15/12 at 2:03pm

Yes, I believe it's the one anomaly in the Toronto cast recording. All of the other songs were in the show when it left town.


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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #4

Posted: 3/15/12 at 3:14pm

Wasn't that recorded as a "concept" recording even before the show opened in Toronto?

That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #5

Posted: 3/15/12 at 3:30pm

The song that replaced it was caled "I Got a Feeling" - same basic idea, but less about Houdini and Evelyn themselves, and more about how quickly the world was changing.

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #6

Posted: 3/15/12 at 3:45pm

Right. In fact, "The Show Biz" technically wasn't cut from the show because it was never in it. It was replaced by "I Have a Feeling" before rehearsals began.

It's on the concept album because it was written just a few days before the recording session and Drabinsky liked it so much he had it recorded at the last minute.

Later, of course, "I Have a Feeling" was cut and Nesbitt and Houdini were given solos (which went through several revisions) in "Atlantic City" instead.

ETA I just found an old ratmer post that says "The Show Biz" was replaced by "I Have a Feeling" on 12/5/96. The Toronto opening was 12/8/96, so maybe it was in previews after all.

ETA again I found a song list in another old ratmer post that lists "I Have a Feeling" being in the show on 12/3/96. Regardless, there are several old posts there from people who say they saw "The Show Biz" performed during previews, so I was definitely wrong to say it was never in the show.

Open to correction as always.





Updated On: 3/15/12 at 03:45 PM

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #7

Posted: 3/15/12 at 4:54pm

Great info- I had no idea it took so much to get Evelyn and Houdini a song- but alas, I still don't have the damn sheet music! Oh well!

That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #8

Posted: 4/7/20 at 10:00pm

Almost 8 years later, I come across this post researching a song I found while cleaning out my hardcopy score library... from the original Ragtime Toronto run... and found a song called "I HAVE A FEELING" lol.  If anyone is still looking for the music (12/4/96 if you're curious), shoot me a message.  Someone else may have also posted/found it somewhere years ago, but if not and are still looking for it... I got it!

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That's The Showbiz from Ragtime #9

Posted: 4/8/20 at 1:12am

The Ragtime score always appeals to and frustrates me at the same time. It's very derivative. Sometimes appropriately--as in the Joplin pastiches--but mostly not--as in "Crime of the Century" (a very Kander-Ebb piece) and lots of songs that seem to be imitation Sondheim. The score never finds its own, unique voice. And yet it's very entertaining. 

Updated On: 4/8/20 at 01:12 AM


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