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#26

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Guys, guys, guys. I was not saying that Elphaba isn't the star of the show, of course she is. Her part is larger and far more important without a doubt. However, I was saying that Glinda is a large role, and as large as some lead roles in other shows. And I believe that, since she is billed above the title, she must be a leading actress, I could've sworn reading somewhere that it is a rule, but I could be wrong.

#27

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Haven't seen Wicked yet, but to a casual observer, it sure seems to be gaining momentum as the frontrunner for the Best Musical Tony. It has been doing the seemingly impossible - filling the impossible-to-fill Gershwin Theatre to near capacity at top dollar. It has been coming in #2 on the list of top grossing shows (just behind The Lion King) for weeks now. The storyline seems to have caught the fancy of the general public. All this despite receiving a lot of mixed to negative reviews. The Broadway version of Bombay Dreams is still yet to be seen (and that show is extremely well positioned, opening at the end of the season), and if a Broadway transfer happens for Caroline, or Change, I fully expect that the Times will come out swinging in editorial support, but I have a feeling that Wicked could go all the way.
"Gif me the cobra jool!"
#28

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As much as I want Idina to win, there is no way the producers are going to put Kristin in supporting! With that said, its between Kristin and Donna.. and MAYBE, HOPEFULLY, there being an upset with Idina because the other two have won before.. and because Idina is more that award- deserving!
#29

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It can almost be compared to "The Producers" nominations for Leading Actor situation. Elphaba's character is the Max Bialystock in "The Producers" and Glinda is Leo Bloom. Max Bialystock is the Broadway producer, the one who comes up with the whole idea, and the leader of the duo. Leo is the mousy accountant who follows Max around, and is pretty much in his shadow throughout the whole show. Although he has tons of time onstage and a lot of amazing moments, and some great singing, he clearly is not the leading actor.

I thought the analogy would be clear up my thoughts a bit.
#30

re: The 'Wicked' Tony's??

Have you seen Wonderful Town or Q?
Donna Murphy has her name all over the Best Actress category.
I predict Wonderful Town to win best revival(unless Fiddler kicks ass)
I want Avenue Q to win best Musical
Stephanie D'Abruzzo to win supporting actress
Donna Murphy to tie with Kristin as best actress (has that ever happened?)

Updated On: 12/23/03 at 09:42 PM

#31

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Sorry- but "Wicked" has Best Musical in the bag, most definitely.
At least, that's my opinion.

Speaking of Fiddler, everyone has been saying that Hugh Jackman already has the Tony for Best Leading Actor, but what about Alfred Molina? The man COULD blow us away as Tevye, and then there would be a real race for Best Actor. That would be fun. re: re: The 'Wicked' Tony's??
#32

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Thelma Ritter and Gwen Verdon tied for Best Actress for New Girl in Town in 1958 (though Thelma Ritter's role was a supporting role). Anna Maria Alberghetti (Carnival) and Diahann Carroll (No Strings) tied for Best Actress in a Musical in 1962. Leslie Uggams (Hallelujah, Baby!) and Patricia Routledge (Darling of the Day) tied for Best Actress in a Musical in 1968, though by the time of the awards, Hallelujah, Baby! was already closed and Darling of the day had run a mere 32 performances. And Constance Cummings (Wings) and Carole Shelley (The Elephant Man) tied for Best Actress in a Play in 1979.

As for Avenue Q, though it is clearly the season's Best Musical, it is probably too small and special to win the award. Big $$$ wins the Tony for Best Musical, not the season's actual Best Musical.

Donna Murphy will probably win Best Actress if she stays healthy, though if Caroline, or Change moves, I hope Tonya Pinkins gives her a run for her money. Not Murphy's fault, but the fact that some critics call her performance better than Roz Russell's leaves me almost without words.
"Gif me the cobra jool!"

Updated On: 12/23/03 at 10:58 PM

#33

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Lets not talk about the Tony's being rigged. It is the most ridiculous reward show.
-Fosse over Parade
-Lion King over Ragtime
-Producers over Full Monty
-Millie over Urinetown
-Marissa Jaret Winokur over Bernadette Peters

The list goes on and on...
#36

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I didn't believe Ragtime deserved Best Musical that year, but that is just me. I love the score, but hated the staging, choreography, and giant gaping holes in the book. I think Ragtime deserves to win a Tony someday in a rewritten and restaged production.

As for the Kristin debate. If her name is above the title, then she is "eligible" for the lead actress category. Dorothy Loudon won Best Actress in a Leading Role for Annie. Daisy Egan won Best Featured Actress for The Secret Garden. How can Mary Lennox NOT be a lead in Secret Garden?? This alone tells you how screwed the system is.

I think the producers have already shown a lack of respect to the material and to Idina by enlarging the character of Glinda to such an extent. If Kristin gets nominated, then Idina will most likely be overlooked as she often was by the critics.

PS - I loved Wayne Cilento's choreography for Tommy.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#37

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Speaking or choreography, I love the choreography in BFO!
"I'm learning to dig deep down inside and find the truth within myself and put that out. I think what we identify with in popular music more than anything else is when someone just shares a truth that we can relate to. That's what I'm searching for in my music." - Ron Bohmer

"I broke the boundaries. It wasn't cool to be in plays- especially if you were in sports & I was in both." - Ashton Kutcher

Updated On: 12/24/03 at 12:36 PM

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