The Movie vs. Musical

[Akitarent]

Posted: 3/3/06 at 9:36pm

Do you think the trend of movie-musicals will survive? I think Rent was too cheesy did not stick to the original dark/raw tone of AIDS. The Producers just looked as it did on stage. Aside from Dreamgirls (which seems to be making strides) what do you think have to be be done (aside from stunt casting) to a successful movie-musical? Do members of the creative team HAVE to
been involved with the orignal Broadway production?

Should fan input be taken into consideration and by how much?


ps. Parks is the cuttttttestttt ::melt into a puddle::



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[jv92]

Posted: 3/3/06 at 10:41pm

An outstanding director.
An exceptional cast.
A creative and original vision.
(And good orchestrations!)

[TheaterAddict7652]

Posted: 3/3/06 at 10:49pm

A good director is essential...especially one whose roots are from theater, so they can understand which elements from the musical are vital and must be kept for the film.

[fflagg]

Posted: 3/3/06 at 11:10pm

You need the right people in front of and behind the camera, the confidence of your studio, a great screenplay, and orchestrations.

It would also help to sing the songs live on screen as opposed to synched to give energy.

Just give me SWEENEY TODD on film with Ralph Fiennes, Barbra Streisand, directed by Martin Scorcese. :)

[blaxx]

Posted: 3/3/06 at 11:43pm

"A good director is essential...especially one whose roots are from theater, so they can understand which elements from the musical are vital and must be kept for the film."

On the contrary, get a director that will stay away from what any stage production is or was, and approach it as if the material had been written for the screen only.

[Magical_Ms._Mistoffeles_72]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:15pm

I REALLY hate when they cut songs from the original Broadway productions when they decide to make them into movies. If there could be one just ONE(personally, Im hoping it will be Hairspray) film that keeps all the songs in it, I would be happy.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:17pm

You're kidding me, right? AGAIN?

You make strides not strives, by the way.

Since the thread is here, might as well.... what's the deal, exactly, with Hairspray? Is it a movie version of the Broadway show, or a remake of the original movie? So we can guage how many complaints will be upon us....

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[mijofly19]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:23pm

I think it is sometimes very neccessary to cut songs from the original stage show. I think that Chicago made a great move by not including "Class". The Producers was long enough without the "King Of Broadway," and that wasn't the only song they cut. "Rent" really didn't need to add songs like "We're Okay," because it doesn't move the story along at all, and if they kept "Contact" in, it would have been rated "R."

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:28pm

Oh my God.

Contact was NOT cut because of ratings. Contact was not even filmed. It was like... possibly partially choreographed, and then scrapped because it's too stagey and theatrical and likely would've been absolutely ridiculous and all-too bizarre on flim. When they were filming the movie, they planned for it to be rated R, so saying that Contact was cut to avoid an R rating is absolutely untrue. Yes, if Contact had ended up in the movie, and Columbus had insisted that it stay, the rating wouldn't have come down, but the rating is under no circumstances the reason it's not there.

It needs to die already. This what was cut and why business.

[mijofly19]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:35pm

That's what I meant. I didn't even know it was partially choreographed. The poster before stated that she wished every single song was kept in a movie musical, and that's why I said it. and I do completely agree with you that the song never would have worked in a movie.

[Akitarent]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:36pm

luvtheEmcee if you don't like the thread hten move on. No one is forcing you to read it. With plays as wlel as books I am always curious how the original source develops into a cinemantic experience (or lack of).

With so many musical being adapted for another meduim it appears Dreamgirls (from the video and media/interviews) is on the right track but only a year from now will we know

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:37pm

I don't see why everyone seems to think Contact is all that bad. People are sitting under a sheet, chanting adjectives. There's nothing obscene or R-rated about it. As for the ensemble dancing off to the side (since this argument has been made for the stageshow as well), there are music videos that are worse than that and play at 3pm on TRL. There are some serious prudes out there if they think Contact is really that inappropriate.

AkitaRent, maybe you could try SEARCHING before you make a thread like this. There have been dozens and dozens of them made. Emcee could overlook them, but when there's a new one made every week, it makes it a bit difficult.

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[Fantabulous428]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:38pm

LuvtheEmcee if you don't like the thread then move on. No one is forcing you to read it. With plays as well as books I am always curious how the original source develops into a cinematic experience (or lack of).

With so many musicals being adapted for another medium it appears Dreamgirls (from the video and media/interviews) is on the right track but only a year from now will we know.


Please learn how to spell or proofread. It hurts my eyes.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 6:38pm

Even if I don't like it, I'm still allowed to voice my opinion.

It's impossible for this discussion about what makes a good musical-turned-movie without going over stuff that's been discussed ad nauseam already.

[Magical_Ms._Mistoffeles_72]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 9:04pm

Im sorry LuvtheEmcee I didnt mean to upset you, or anyone else on this thread , and Im very sorry if I said something that has already been discussed to no end and has caused any annoyance to anyone.

Forgive me?

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 9:06pm

I wasn't yelling at you!

Maybe I need to get a puppy avatar, too!

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[Fantabulous428]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 9:08pm

No worries :)

[Magical_Ms._Mistoffeles_72]

Posted: 3/4/06 at 9:58pm

ok then wait- you have a puppy avatar???? aww

[sanda]

Posted: 3/5/06 at 1:53pm

Some shows are more suitable than others to transfer to big screen successfully. Rent, unfortunately, no matter how good the director could be, cannot possibly appeal to main stream audience other than rentheads.

The producers has the potential to be a business success. Unfortunately, Stroman did a lousy work.