Theater vs. Theatre
The Stars R Aligned
Understudy Joined: 9/3/06
#75re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 10:14pm
i use theater only when im talking about movie theaters (cinema's)
broadway or stadge is always theatre for me
ThankstoPhantom
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
#76re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 10:37pmJohnboy...Dover doesn't mean making up definitions, but only following certain ones, since the Enlish language sees fit to have multiple dictionaries.
BrunetteBombshell
Broadway Star Joined: 1/28/06
#77re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 10:46pmI spell theatre "theatre" all the time. Whether I'm talking about cinemas or Broadway theatres.
#78re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:01pm
But why? That's the question I have. Not if you spell it theatre; but why? It's not a big deal, obviously, but I wonder why this has become some sort of trend; and this crazy theory of the word having different meanings, depending on its spelling, is all so strange and interesting to me. And, just a little bit funny; and, a whole lot pretentious!
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#79re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:20pmOnly in America is it spelt 'Theater'. I always looked at it as being a sort of dumbing down of the English language. As I said only in America will you see it spelt thus. So for me it is always 'Theatre'.
#80re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:23pmBut there are lots of words that are spelled differently in America. Do you spell all those words with the British spelling?
ThankstoPhantom
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
#81re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:30pm
No, I don't because I'm in school right now and teachers have a fit with British spelling, which I intend to use after school.
And I'm going to say the same thing, again, it's NOT being pretentious, it's a preference...it's just a way for me to distinguish the stage in my writing.
#82re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:40pmWords like Theatre, colour, glamour, and catalogue are all spellings that I was taught to use and that just feel right for me, whereas realise does not feel like me. I will never write catalog. I would not be comfortable writing anything formal using that spelling as it just FEELS more casual to me. And regardless of what your dictionary will tell you, every little bit of every word means something. Visually words have a different affect, just as they do depending on pronunciation, and syntax. In writing, everything is (or should be) a deliberate choice, and a specific one. Every detail counts. I am a word-freak, and a poet, and every one of my choices makes an impact on my writing. It has nothing to do with pretentiousness.
#83re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:41pmOkay. At least that's an explanation. It's still odd to me. But this idea of dumbing-down, is absurd. These spellings have been around since the early 1800's; and, the fact is that England simplified the language, not Americans. American English is far more proper, and from the original source (Germanic), which the English eliminated. For example, we still use have gotten, whereas, the English use the more simplified (or dumbed-down if you prefer), have got. But, it wasn't Americans who changed that, it was the English. Many other changes, as well. Webster made the spelling changes, because they reflected our pronounciation of those letters - theater, is pronounced the way it is spelled; theatre, is not.
#84re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:46pmI embrace any and all forms of English because they allow me to diversify my speech and my writing. The more you know, the more you can express. To use your example, in everyday speech, I often say "Have got", especially among friends, whereas in any formal writing, or with adults whom I respect, I am more inclined to use "Have gotten". I really think that it's best to understand as much as possible.
#85re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/8/06 at 11:47pmFor what it's worth, the stylebook of The Associated Press, which basically dictates the style of almost every newspaper across the U.S., is to use "theater" regardless of context unless it is a part of a proper name that spells it "theatre." If you notice, even the New York Times, which has some of its own style rules that differ from AP, uses "theater."
#86re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/9/06 at 3:15amJohnBoy2, I spell the words I use this way - theatre, colour, neighbour, centre. These are a few that spring to mind. I use spelt, never spelled and never say gotten, which is (just) an awful word, ugh.
ThankstoPhantom
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
#87re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/9/06 at 4:03pmI've lived in the US my whole life, and I've NEVER seen "catalog" or "dialog" anywhere...is this a new thing?
ThankstoPhantom
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
#88re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 10/9/06 at 4:03pmI've lived in the US my whole life, and I've NEVER seen "catalog" or "dialog" anywhere...is this a new thing?
Hughie
Swing Joined: 9/7/08
#89re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 5:57pm
The use of the word “theatre” goes back to the turn of the 20th Century. Most of American society, particularly those who owned live theater venues, looked upon the new cinema art form as nothing more than a bawdy fad that would soon collapse under its own low-class offerings.
To make a distinction between the “legitimate stage” and the cheap mass produced moving picture productions that had everyone seemingly getting their own piece of this new-fangled pie a line was drawn.
This line divided those venues that offered specific types of entertainment. Live shows that performed on stages without screens remained “theaters” while the new form of entertainment, moving pictures, were shown on screens without a stage for live productions and were, therefore, called “theatres”.
Having this unique spelling informed the public what type of entertainment they were going to see.
Of course, the two-name distinction lost its relevance quickly once the general public began to embrace movies not as the bawdy display of yore but a medium that was growing in sophistication and class. Soon, both forms of entertainment were in the same venue. Comedy, dancing and singing acts would perform prior to the “shorts” which were followed by the “feature attraction” trailed (remember this word) by what was coming next week using snippets from that feature film that, in industry slang, became known as “trailers”.
Today, the line has faded away with history. The only people who are conscious of the distinction are motion picture exhibitors, who name their companies, and companies that own venues strictly for live performances. Take a look at the entertainment section of your newspaper and you’ll probably see the two words used loosely all over the page.
So, no actual claim can be made by anyone, purist or not, that by using one word or the other has its proper usage. Rather, the distinction is one of tradition only.
#90re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 6:03pm
I use "theatre" for the art form itself, and I use "Theater" for the building.
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#91re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 6:08pmTHEATRE
#92re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 6:13pmI use theatre probably because that's how I'd seen it. I guess some of the cast recordings I'd listen to were London casts or something, but I remember seeing theatre spelled that way in the inserts, so that's how I've always spelled it.
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DefyGravity777
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/28/08
#93re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 6:26pmWow this is an old thread. Who really cares if it's theatre or theater. They are both pronounced the same.
DefyGravity777
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/28/08
#95re: Theater vs. Theatre
Posted: 9/7/08 at 6:36pmBut read and read aren't.
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