Time to revive "Pal Joey"?
#0Time to revive "Pal Joey"?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 1:22am
Again...another Stritch reference. But, since I saw Elaine Stritch sing "Zip" in AT LIBERTY, I've been listening to it's Cast Recording and I'm wondering if it's time for a "Pal Joey" revival.
The last revival of this show was in 1976 and it seems that it's been on the shelf long enough. Next year it will be 30 years since it was last revived. I know that it's hard to sell a revival of a classic on Broadway today...but, with the right cast, I think it could work.
Any one else agree with this?
#1re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 1:53am
I ALSO think PAL JOEY is a SPLENDID Musical--Indeed, one of my favorites.
But for JOEY to work--it needs TOP-NOTCH Casting for both 'Vera' and 'Joey'.
Perhaps if someone along the lines of Glenn Close or Meryl Streep for 'Vera', and for 'Joey' [Part does not REALLY require a trained voice], and well, my mind escapes me at the minute of a male dancer with the looks, "charm" and has the right "dancing stuff" to carry off the part.
Thoughts on this, anyone?
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#2re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 2:01amDon't know his name. But he played Tulsa in the BP revival of Gypsy. Maybe too young for Joey, though.
#3re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 2:06am
According to the IBDB, that would have been David Burtka.
As for being "too young" for 'Joey'--I think the role usualy calls for someone in his late twenties/early thirties--old enough "to have been around" but still "young enough" to charm somebody like 'Vera'.
#4re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 2:37am
30 years is good. don't forget though there was the encores! production with Pitti LuPone. It's my favorite PAL JOEY recording. I could easily see a revival a la CHICAGO with just some tables and chairs and some neon signs for the clubs... it'd be sexy as hell. I'd say Patti and Peter Gallagher should reprise their roles from encores!.... and Lonny Price should direct.
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#5re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 3:35amI thought Terence McNally had been working on a new book for years. He announced it as a vehicle for David Campbell (who doesn't dance)...
#6re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 8:05am
Thank you all for your Monday-morning wishes to revive me. It was a rough weekend. But nothing a double espresso won't revive.
I agree that Patti would be a dream. Seeing her as Vera as her first major NY appearance after she got fired from Sunset Boulevard was one of those theatrical comebacks you only see once in a generation.
I think the perfect Joey would be Michael Beresse. What do you think, Catsy?
#8re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:10am
Just curious - why one would need a NEW book?
I don't think the old one was so bad, or even that dated.
#9re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:11amDefinitely would love to see either Meryl Streep, Glenn CLose or Patti LuPone do Vera (best I've ever seen was Sian Phillips in London) - and for Joey how could you do better than Harry Connick Jr.?
#10re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:24amThere was already a rewrite by Mark Bramble when Lena Horne and Clifton Davis did the show in L.A. as PAL JOEY '78. New songs were added, and the one scene role of Melba (Stritch's part) was expanded for Josephine Premice to be Vera's best friend.
WOSQ
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/03
#11re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:42am
I saw a fairly good production of Pal Joey last summer at the Shaw Festival. About as good as one can get using the original book.
The book is the problem, specifically the first half of the second act which just lays there like a bad date. Also why wait to introduce some of the villains (of a sort) until the second act?
I saw the legendary failure production in 1976 where the leading man (Edward Villella replaced by Chris Chadman) quit after the first preview and the leading lady (Eleanor Parker replaced by Joan Copeland) after the fourth. Chadman and Copeland were the understudies. The reviews were lethal and Circle in the Square ended up papering like mad.
But, oh, that score.
[Trivia time: veteran actress Joan Copeland is Arthur Miller's sister.]
#12re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:45amAnd Dave Hodo, the construction worker from The Village People, was a dancer in that production.
riv
Leading Actor Joined: 3/6/05
#13re: Time to revive 'Pal Joey'?
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:46am
I love Pal Joey.
Forget a new book and definately forget interpolating any songs into it. Do it for real or don't do it at all.
I'm sick of this "revisal" crap.
Luke0827
Understudy Joined: 10/7/04
#14Christine Andreas as Vera
Posted: 5/9/05 at 9:51amChristine Andreas won raves in Philadelphia's "Pal Joey" (and a Barrymore award) when she starred as Vera last year. If you've ever heard her sing "Bewitched..." you'll likely agree she'd be a fantastic choice.
#15Christine Andreas as Vera
Posted: 5/9/05 at 10:01amI've worn out two of her ON YOUR TOES albums...
#16Christine Andreas as Vera
Posted: 5/9/05 at 11:17amWell...if Joey needs to be in his late twenties/early thirties, then David Burtka would work. He is 28, although he doesn't look near that age. When I saw him in GYPSY I couldn't believe how young he looked on stage...so he might not pass for the right age.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#17Christine Andreas as Vera
Posted: 5/9/05 at 11:20amA while back Riedel floated the idea of Hugh Jackman for Joey. I don't know if he can dance it, but he's definitely the name to choose if you want to get the thing produced.
Luke0827
Understudy Joined: 10/7/04
#18Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 5/9/05 at 11:24am
The only thing with Jackman is, wouldn't the whole show revolve around him? This may sound crazy, but what about Adam Pascal?
Wildcat...I love On Your Toes too...Christine's solo work is really fantastic and I'd love to see her back on Broadway in a role like Vera or Mame. Everything is so celebrity driven these days, that I wonder if they'd cast her in a role of that size. She's way under utilized on Broadway in my opinion.
#19Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 5/9/05 at 11:34am
I actually just saw the show at my college (which I just graduated!). It has some nice songs, but it really is SO dated, and the plot really is rather pointless (kind of boring too). I don't think a revival would be very well received, unless they got some big star to do it (I agree that Hugh Jackman would be an excellent choice).
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#20Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 5/9/05 at 11:50am
Joey is a bit like Sally in CABARET. If the actor playing him is too obviously talented and charismatic, would you really buy the idea that he can only work in dives and has to leech off rich dames to get ahead? Also, the role was written for a dancer so ideally it should be cast with a dancer, and preferably one of smaller stature...
"Still, this half-pint imitation..."
#21Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 5/9/05 at 12:13pmThis is funny... I just borrowed the Elaine Stritch at Liberty CD, and while listening to it last night was wondering when we were going to get a revival of Pal Joey...
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. - Randy Pausch
neddyfrank2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/23/05
#22Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 2/3/07 at 5:19pmOne of the 'Jersey Boys' will be playing the role of Joey Evans.
#24Jackman/Andreas
Posted: 2/3/07 at 6:49pm
I remember Ken Mandelbaum mentioned a reading that took place starring Donna Murphy (who has played Vera in Boston) and I believe John Stamos though that doesn't sound right, can't really remember now. The Weisslers were behind the reading and were supposed to bring the show to Broadway. Don't know what happened with that reading though.
Last year there was a lot of talk about a Matthew Bourne-directed revival starring Hugh Jackman. Either way I'd love to see Murphy as Vera.
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